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I didn't order one yet, so can't really comment. However, looking at the pictures alongside my own M136 I suspect I'd agree, so I may not buy the MZ figure and will save my money towards another.
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as i said on official boards this is dire news indeed, I had not seen your post here yet master ent. but pics are absolutly necessary (not for us) but to show and prove Mithril the facts. I had the impression there was a shrink in size since first MZ release remember? now it seems to grow concrete. They have to do someting about it
i'm fairly certain its a matter of scale when 3D printing and then building moulds around this 3D cast.
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I know nothing of any value about 3D printing, but shouldn't it be possible to simply input a different instruction to the computer to get it to "up" or adjust the size of the printed output as necessary? It's pretty naff technology if it deoesn't enable such correction..
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Interestingly I have measured the recent Gildor figure and it is about 32/33mm in height as is a sample of other older figures, which is I think Mithril scale, although as elves were supposed to be taller than your average human, maybe they are slightly vertically challenged .
I haven't received the Galadriel vignette, but snow allowing, hopefully here next week.
Is the issue maybe a visual one where the figures are maybe the same height, but are slighter in build which makes them look smaller?
Most of my figures are in boxes after our house move so not easy to do a general comparison of human/elf heights.
As Barliman says, I thought the printing/digital sculpting method should allow for variations in scale as indeed some manufactures do.
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they may be the same height, which does not mean the same overall scale... if they are thinner with same height that could mean they are 'globally" smaller but "elongated" to match the height
but the ratio is thus messed up... really a photo side by side with "mirror of galadriel" old figurine is required to compare here, as both figurines are similar
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I still did not order this vignette... after these comments I think I will wait for easter discount... ;-)
Actually I cannot understand why they do such mistakes, again and again... I was thinking that this printing/digital sculpting should be easier for producing new figures... so I think that it is possible to "calibrate" all individual sizes of all races and program those values in computer program for all future prints...
I'm sure they could compare all those scales and keep the body measures uniform for all future print figures.
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The older versions of the figures are far superior. Shame.
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huooomm ... gruhomdom? ... at the moment I'm thinking about offering lessons for learning basic skills in painting "antique-finish" correctly as with the new Christmas figure there's not only some massive assembly required but also to provide the figure with the good-old typical finish we have known for so many years .... gruuuûom ... remember my version of that MX-UP?
keep smiling, please .... rhûommtrouble di domm ... whatever that means
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huooômmm ... sorry ... so what do we have now at the end of 2017 ? ... new bases, new design and castings that require certain skills in assembling ... grrrûom ... the good-old grey primer is gone for good and leaves us with a certain "prime the figure yourself" idea of new generations of Mithril figures ... hoom ... even the old simple characteristics of the bases seem to have been gone ... alas ... what more is to come? ...
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Gildor Inglorion wrote:
they may be the same height, which does not mean the same overall scale... if they are thinner with same height that could mean they are 'globally" smaller but "elongated" to match the height
but the ratio is thus messed up... really a photo side by side with "mirror of galadriel" old figurine is required to compare here, as both figurines are similar
That's what I meant , although the height appears to be similar, some do look a bit thinner than others.
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Well Galadriel in Terrible Form and Aragorn at the Black Gate have arrived along with another older GF mounted figure - Gothmog.........
Sadly I can confirm Master Theobald's observations about the size of Galadriel in Terrible form being of a slighter build than previous incarnations, head and hands both appear smaller even if height is pretty much similar. It is noticeable certainly when held next to the other Galadriel with her Mirror.
Painted as a stand-alone it may not be quite so noticeable, we shall have to see. Also quite annoyingly Galadriel's clothing is different with the new figure having some patterning on it which the other doesn't (this is more annoying to me for project reasons).
Re: Aragorn, I liked the look of this figure from first sighting and although I haven't compared the figure to another for a size comparison, what is noticeable is that his horse, compared to Gothmog's is noticeably larger both in length, and in width (certainly at the tail end).
If I get a chance later I will take a photo, but it would appear that the Mithril paradox continues
Any hot wine around here please Master Inn-keep?
As no hot wine was forthcoming I did a quick compare to the Aragorn/Gothmog casting and Aragorn does appear slightly larger, or at least his head is slightly taller than his evil counterpart . As the shape of the two figures is similar it was a useful comparison.
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H everyone,
Sorry for being out for a while. I will read here and come back for a drink later.
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Hadn't missed you, Master Milo - you're too short for me to see above the top of the bar anyway!
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No offense but, who cares for regular customers here apart from the man in the dark and the Tree ?
Now I can sit, ask for lunch and good ale.
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Your pictures of last vignette reminds me of some LR minis which I have always found:
- better detailed, more difficult to paint
- too many parts, more difficult to assemble
- more expensive, more difficult to get one
- sometimes wrong size
- wrong color, "do it yourself" as the Tree said
- wrong style
At the end : wrong
Does anyone feel the same ?
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Well, if you think I don't care for my regular customers then you'll have to get the tree or the man in the dark to serve you in future. Good luck with that!
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à ta santé Barli !
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Have a few pretzels on mne.
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Miam. Thanks for these delicious biscuits. Now I'm thristy and would fancy to offer you a drink. KCHINK.
Come on take a sit and tell me about news you hear around Bree.
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Actually, I've just been drinking more than I should at lunchtime, so will certainly sit down, but I'll pass on the drink, thanks very much.
Love the upcoming half-orc hornist by the way. Great link to Mithril's Celtic/Germanic interpretation of Dunlending culture.
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Yeah true the miniature looks very promising and new.
Still I wonder how you can say you like these half evil creatures...
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They always pay their bar tabs.
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