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#576 Wed, Aug6 2008 10:37pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
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Re: The Taproom

Hi, groovecrown ... I just saw you pass by here ... hruoommm let me give you a welcome ... hom

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#577 Wed, Aug6 2008 10:49pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

so much to do, so little time...

I have to focus on pictures now smile


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#578 Thu, Aug7 2008 1:58am

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

Nice job on the database Gildor! It will be a great source for those who need to complete their collections. Have a drink on me!lol


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#579 Fri, Aug8 2008 12:49pm

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

Well, where did everyone go! Their was a lot of us here not to long ago. I guess they just got busy doing other things. wink Oh well, here is to everyone(holds mug in the air)!lol


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#580 Fri, Aug8 2008 12:54pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

well I am here jd wink uploading and manipulating pics since 9:00am this morning smile
i'll stop for today... I think it's enough , you can check the progress on the other topic smile


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#581 Fri, Aug8 2008 1:30pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

I'm here too, but - alas - I have to moonlight doing other jobs in order to earn a living, and that occasionally distracts me from my more important duties at the Pony.

As you say, it was quite busy just a few days ago, but surprisingly not as busy as I'd anticipated - I was quite expecting a more demonstrative response to my suggestion that there might be things to criticise in any of The Man's figures. As such, of course, it was not intended to denigrate any of his undeniably superlative work - but I just thought that it might be worth hearing from anyone who felt there was anything that they'd have liked to see done, well, differently.

One that I was reminded of yesterday (on reaching the 'Ride of the Rohirrim' chapter in my current peregrination through Middle-earth) is the fact that I've always felt Chris's Woses are not lumpy or squat enough to marry up with JRRT's very specific description of their appearance. Inddeed, the Mithril figures look more like athletes than the 'short-legged and fat-armed, thick and stumpy' characters the book parades before us.

Anyway, I must be off again - I'm still supposed to be moonlighting.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#582 Fri, Aug8 2008 7:32pm

ddaines
Skilled Artisan
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1958

Re: The Taproom

Plate mail!!!!!????? wink

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#583 Sat, Aug9 2008 5:12am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Ah, yes, a favourite "hate" amongst many of my patrons, unless I'm much mistaken - an inheritance of the MERP days, I fear. It always seemed to me that MERP's creators were more into Fantasy than Lord of the Rings and were determined to drag Middle-earth down to that level - High Gothic plate armour was one of the inevitable by-products of that desire.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#584 Sat, Aug9 2008 7:19am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

though not realistic into the Middle-earth universe (at least for elves) you will admit that it is a pleasure to paint no? smile

maybe I'm alone but i tak far much more pleasure painting a knight of Dol Amroth, an Elendil or Isildur, or why not a nazgul in armor (LR11-19) than simples crappy orcs in tatters smile (sorry if I hurt anyone, Mithril orcs are great but Orcs are my nightmare...I try to paint the least of them)


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#585 Sat, Aug9 2008 12:14pm

ESTEL
The Lord of the Paints
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 497

Re: The Taproom

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

though not realistic into the Middle-earth universe (at least for elves) you will admit that it is a pleasure to paint no? smile

maybe I'm alone but i tak far much more pleasure painting a knight of Dol Amroth, an Elendil or Isildur, or why not a nazgul in armor (LR11-19) than simples crappy orcs in tatters smile (sorry if I hurt anyone, Mithril orcs are great but Orcs are my nightmare...I try to paint the least of them)

I totally agree to you Gildor, and I can also understand why Orcs are horror to pait. Try using inks it makes life easier and makes the orcish devilry look so filthy. I do not agree much, that plate armour is not realistic, even if I do not like to mcuh plate on the Mithril figures, but for the D.A. knights it is perfectly done.

NAMARIE
estel


"From the ashes a fire shall be woken, 
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
The crownless again shall be king".

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#586 Sat, Aug9 2008 3:47pm

Barliman
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From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

I actually prefer to paint the, er, "crappy" orcs! And High Gothic plate armour just doesn't ring true for me (well, it might if I hit it with a hammer). No, I much prefer good old "early medieval" mail with the odd plate brassard or greave.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#587 Sat, Aug9 2008 3:52pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

well we all have our preferences smile


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#588 Sat, Aug9 2008 9:52pm

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

G'day Barliman, Gildor and co, been a while - it's great to see you're all still kicking and debating the relative merits of scrappy orcs versus plated knights (say mounted Galadriel or Celeborn).  I might have to run with Barliman here - I quite enjoy the weathered, beaten look of the orcs, and feel that they really capture the vibe of the books.  That said, I don't mind the odd polished Gondorian man-at-arms from time-to-time either.  Indeed, the figure that I've almost finished painting (which has been at that stage since sometime in late 2006/early 2007, when I last had the energy to do the Mithril thing) is a ghost warrior, and there's some really great work on the tattered armour and clothing that's a joy to paint.

So how have you all been?  I have to apologise in advance for not reading the preceding 24 pages of goings-on at the Pony - I may when I get the chance.  I hope you're all well, and touch wood will be around a bit from now on.

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#589 Sat, Aug9 2008 10:18pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

Ah but I never said I did not like the orcs, the orcs are great!!!

I just said I prefer PAINTING knights than orcs smile  just painting wink  but for collection and scuplting purpose, orcs are really cool smile  and Galadriel in armor.. is... excuse me ... an abherration smile


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#590 Sun, Aug10 2008 12:34am

Gavin
Skilled Artisan
From: Canada
Registered: Wed, Jan30 2008
Posts: 936

Re: The Taproom

I don't mind orcs, per se, but you paint a dozen of them and...you've now got a dozen of the enemy horde to upset our heroes. You are painting extras, and only you know how much work went into them, and likely, you'll forget.

Speaking of ugly, I see Squire Morley may (or may not) have finally completed his GW contract with the release of a rather horrid Elrond figure. Makes one appreciate the Mithril Elronds, especially the LR 37 model.

Gavin

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#591 Sun, Aug10 2008 5:42am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

First and foremost, welcome to the long-absent Axe-man. Where have you been? But never mind that, have a flagon of the resident Ent's favourite flavoured water - he swears by it, but denies that it's ale (because it's too short a word, I suspect). It's good to see you back!

As for the Dreaded Morley, Master Gavin, his contract with GW ran out about two years ago when he and they parted company. I'm assured by those that know, that what we're still seeing are the last dregs of his abominable output (GW work so far ahead it would make a Time Lord's head spin). I wonder, though, who will have designed their next load of Elf releases (yep, there's more to come)? At least they can't be any worse.

What, Master Axe, finished that flagon already? Very hasty! I'll have to charge for the next one - that'll slow you down.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#592 Sun, Aug10 2008 6:41am

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

[belch]  Great schtuff Barliiiiiii [hic], yoush schtill know howsh to brew the good shtuff [stagger] and are cleeeaarly schtill in good form [wink, non-suggestive wink] Have been not scho well, but wif a liddle more of thish, I'll be fwine [falls onto back, smiling at ceiling smile]

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#593 Sun, Aug10 2008 7:31am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

I had the mural painted on the ceiling just for people like you. Do you like it? I think the elephants are a bit blurred, but I only had Nob's head to work with (it took three dunks in the scrumpy to get all the paint out of his hair).


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#594 Sun, Aug10 2008 9:06am

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Huoooommmmrguooommmm .... welcome back again, Master Axe99, welcome indeed .... huom.
I witnessed that you enjoyed that honey-coloured clear clean watery liquid ... huoomm ... though you should be careful about swallowing that brew too hastiliy in such amounts ... hom ... you've already noticed that it might hamper your way of communication ... rhuuoommm ... suchwise it does ... hom ....
anyway, welcome again, good old Master Axe99 .... smile

Huoommm .... Master Barliman, may I have a word with you about my deposit of flagons, please? ... rhuoommmhom ...

As for painting .... huoomm ... alas ... there are few restrictions to me, the matter is that I cannot always spend that much time on it .... rhuoommmm ... unfortunately .... huom

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#595 Sun, Aug10 2008 10:50am

hsf62
Master Caster
From: Australia
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 2930

Re: The Taproom

Welcome back Axe99!
Another Lost Traveller found his way home!


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#596 Sun, Aug10 2008 11:53am

ddaines
Skilled Artisan
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1958

Re: The Taproom

Welcome back Axe - a 'Lost Traveller' found!! It shouldn't take long for someone from your neck of the woods to drink this place dry playing 'catch-up'

Back to the other debate - painting. I've alway loved the orcs (even though many seem to be bald sad ), but I find as with any figures big, small, medium, the more detail, the more I get bored after the initial enthusiasm and I suppose orcs do have a lot of raggedy bits of clothing and equipment - I'm still wondering if I shall live long enough to paint the Time Machine orcs from the old Warband set neutral, but I think a dry-brush and good use of the inks can speed up the time it takes.

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#597 Sun, Aug10 2008 4:30pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Since I'm still 90 percent enamels, I can't take advantage of inks, though I've seen some pretty impressive results by others.

Er, and sorry about the 'borrowed' flagon, Master Tree. I've told Nob to refill it - if you're lucky he'll do it from the barrel in the cellar.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#598 Sun, Aug10 2008 4:42pm

Wendy
Slowest Painter Ever
From: Michigan, USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 365
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Re: The Taproom

Now we must think of a good title for Master Axe99.  smile

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#599 Sun, Aug10 2008 9:27pm

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

That's good advice Theobald, my head is ringing today - Barley, you should put a health warning on that stuff!  I'll go a _little_ bit easier next time - although that's certainly an enticing challenge Dave wink.  Good to see you all again, and touch wood I shouldn't disappear like that in the future - had environmental issues with work which made me quite crook for quite some time - I haven't been m'self for well over a year, but am in a different location now and slowly building the health back up.  A few more of Barley's brews and I'll be fine smile.  Am looking forward to getting a bit of time to check out the threads with members work in them to see what you've all been up to - any highlights I should look out for?

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#600 Mon, Aug11 2008 12:03am

Wendy
Slowest Painter Ever
From: Michigan, USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 365
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Re: The Taproom

There is some neat stuff in the Mayor Samwise's Gallery.

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