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#601 Mon, Aug11 2008 5:33am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Glad to hear you're on the mend, Master Axe. But if you don't want to suffer any relapses I'd recommend you steer clear of the scrumpy - I genuinely don't know what the rats I put in there have eaten.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#602 Mon, Aug11 2008 6:10am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
Website

Re: The Taproom

don't forget to visit the categories outside the mailboard itself smile database and gallery mostly smile


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#603 Mon, Aug11 2008 6:48am

ESTEL
The Lord of the Paints
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 497

Re: The Taproom

MAE GOVANNEN MELLON,

well after having a look at the pages and some pictures, I have seen the travelling Elrond at Chris T. home. Nice details in the back. Is that a black Numenorean rider in the far left??
Well the picture is definitly worth a look (as all of the features of Gildors sites are!).
Would be interesting to see many more pics of the Masters workbench and design room. ;-)

NAMARIE
estel


"From the ashes a fire shall be woken, 
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
The crownless again shall be king".

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#604 Mon, Aug11 2008 7:04am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
Website

Re: The Taproom

well there are some in the "About Mithril & Chris Tubb" page... with pictures of Chris himself working in his workroom...
that's all I have from him


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#605 Mon, Aug11 2008 7:02pm

ddaines
Skilled Artisan
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1958

Re: The Taproom

Just jumping back to Barli(?)'s post about things not quite right, and I can't confirm it 'cos I haven't got the time to research it, but shouldn't the Numenorians and 'High' Elf types be a bit taller than the other figures of lesser men - I'm sure somewhere it says the Numenoreans were knocking on seven feet tall and their stride was ........, and the elfy boys were tall as well.

Having said that I suppose that when you are working on figures this size an 'accurate' interpretation of seven feet tall might push the scale to look visually wrong.

If anyone has a Numenorian figure to hand that can be compared to a 'lesser' man they may be able to confirm or refute this suggestion big_smile I can't get to any without causing chaos in the delicate eco-system that is my hobby/display room.

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#606 Tue, Aug12 2008 3:41am

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

From memory, you're spot on with the Numenoreans and the 'High' elves (Eldar in particular) - although I think the Nandor (memory faint - please correct me if I'm wrong) were sorta normal-tall.  I remember comparing some of the Isildur/Anarion Mithrils and I think they were a bit taller than the average man - although I think some of the higher elves (Elrond in particular) seem to come in a little shorter than you'd expect.

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#607 Tue, Aug12 2008 3:42am

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

On another note, great site Gildor - am very much enjoying getting to know it smile

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#608 Tue, Aug12 2008 5:56am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

You're absolutely right regarding the heights business, Dave (you can still see the dent in the taproom doorframe where a bunch of Elves in helmets came through a few years back). JRRT tells us that the Noldor were the tallest Elves, and though I can't find the actual reference anywhere I'm pretty sure that they were about seven feet. Mind you, if you rfead LOTR often enough you'll begin to notice that 'tall' is one of the Professor's favoiurite adjectives, and is applied to just about anyone important at some point in the story (Hobbits and Dwarves excepted).

Chris, on the other hand, has never seen the Elves and Numenoreans as quite so tall as perhaps JRRT intended. There used to be a chart of creature heights on the Mithril wsebsite some years ago (it may still be there, but I haven't looked), and it can also be found on page 3 of the Mithril Classics Handbook. In this the Noldor Elves stand only about 6ft 3in (sorry, my brain refuses to think in metric at this time in the morning) and the Sindar about 6ft.


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#609 Tue, Aug12 2008 11:02am

hsf62
Master Caster
From: Australia
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 2930

Re: The Taproom

6ft 3in = 1,905m
6ft      = 1,83m


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#610 Tue, Aug12 2008 11:04am

hsf62
Master Caster
From: Australia
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 2930

Re: The Taproom

Not very tall at all!
My brother is already 6ft 6in = 1,98m


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#611 Tue, Aug12 2008 11:44am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Well that's taller than Mrs B - she's only 4ft 9in (1.45m; that'll be because of her half-Hobbit ancestry).

Regarding heights, I've now found a note I penned some years ago when I was putting together an article on the armies of Middle-earth for a wargaming magazine (which I never got round to completing - too many bars to sweep, barrels to shift, etc). In it I wrote:

"Tolkien tells us the Gondorians were the tallest Men found anywhere in Middle-earth during the Third Age, being descended from the famously tall Men of Númenór. Elendil, the first Númenórean high king of Gondor and Arnor, and the tallest Númenórean on record, had stood at nearly 8 ft, but this was unusual enough to earn him the epithet ‘Elendil the Tall’. By the middle of the Third Age intermarriage with other races of Men meant that most Gondorians probably averaged about 7 ft, and by the War of the Ring 6 ft 4 ins seems to have been generally considered ‘man-high’."

From memory much of the info for this observation came from Unfinished Tales and The Peoples of Middle-earth, though I concede that my memory isn't entirely clear on that score.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#612 Thu, Aug14 2008 2:03am

Gavin
Skilled Artisan
From: Canada
Registered: Wed, Jan30 2008
Posts: 936

Re: The Taproom

That observation looks spot on, Master Barkeep.

I should go check sources for you, too.

But right now my head is mush!

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#613 Thu, Aug14 2008 5:45am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Sorry, that'll be the scrumpy.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#614 Fri, Aug15 2008 3:34pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
Website

Re: The Taproom

Huooommmmrhuooommmmmm ..... hom! Just a moment, please, gentlemen. Just a moment.
As Master Gildor has completed his Database perfectly a short while ago ... huoomm there should be a toast for that .... rhuoommm ...
To our Wandering Elf ,named Gildor, who took upon himself that incredible task of providing what he calls a database - rhuoommm - which must be something more difficult than just piling up bar tabs, meseems ... rhuoommm ... and having done that excellently .... hom ... I mean excellent .... rhuoommhom ... knowing that it also will turn out to be some kind of endless work to be continued ... huom ... anyway ... alas, I'm not the one born to hold a speech ... rhuoomm.
But I would like you all here to raise your glasses, mugs, bottles, bowls, flagons, cups ... huomm or whatever you prefer to keep your liquids in ... and join me in saying ... huuoomm ...
THANK YOU, Master Gildor !!!! Excellent work indeed.
Rhuoommm ... a bit louder, please.

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#615 Fri, Aug15 2008 3:40pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Absolutely agree, Master Tree. I'd offer everyone free drinks if anyone ever paid for any.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#616 Fri, Aug15 2008 4:46pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
Website

Re: The Taproom

Rhuoommm.... huoommm ... thanks for the free drink, Master Barliman ... hom ... I did pay for everything I consumed around here as far as I know .... rhuoommm ... different currencies there were, of course ... hom ... rumours, coiny things, metal pieces and suchlike ... rhuom.
Please don't be that hasty in providing again mine flagons of that honey-coloured-clear-clean-appely-tasting-refreshing-water ... huoomm ... you have a much more shorter name for that which I cannot remember ... rhuoommm

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#617 Fri, Aug15 2008 6:46pm

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

I will raise my glass to that! Great Job, Gildor the Wandering Elf! lol
Oh Barli, about my tab, well I will get back to you on that one. tongue


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#618 Sat, Aug16 2008 11:51am

hsf62
Master Caster
From: Australia
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 2930

Re: The Taproom

The Master tree speaks from the heart!
Nothing more to say than well done Master Gildor!
Cheers and a long and fulfilling live for the keeper of wisdom and knowlage!


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#619 Sun, Aug17 2008 2:17pm

ddaines
Skilled Artisan
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1958

Re: The Taproom

Just home, but I've raised my mug as well smile

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#620 Sun, Aug17 2008 3:46pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
Website

Re: The Taproom

i am currently working on sitemaps to make robots from google and others recognize my site a bit better.

So far "many mithril pages" research on google directly points here, that's a good thing... alas, concerning "mithril figurines" research, I only am at the end of the second page sad

the best way to gain ranks on the search engine is to have my site mentionned on other websites (in their links sections)
so if any of you has mithril websites, or know of people who owns mithril related websites, that could help if my website was added to their link section.

Thanks in advance


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#621 Mon, Aug18 2008 2:55am

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

Here here!  Great stuff Gildor.  I've got an old website somewhere that I haven't updated since August 2004, but if you think it'd help, it has a links section I can update, so it will be done!

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#622 Mon, Aug18 2008 5:46am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

The only website in the Pony is in the cellar, I'm afraid, courtesy of the spiders Nob has failed to evict.

On a more serious note, I know some of my patrons are MERP or ex-MERP enthusiasts, so it wouldn't be out of place to mention that I've just seen an obituary in Amon Hen (one of the publications of te Tolkien Society, for those of you who aren't members) for the one and only Gary Gygax, the grand old man - indeed, the creator - of Middle-earth roleplaying. He passed away a few months ago, at the age of 69. I still remember my original copy of Dungeons & Dragons turning up in the post (3 booklets in a box, all a bit amateur-looking!) back in the day. I think I still have it somewhere. I never did use it, though - I was looking for LOTR wargame rules at the time, and they didn't yet exist.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#623 Tue, Aug19 2008 2:39am

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

Indeed, it was sad to hear of his passing.  The economist gave him what sounded like a pretty good obituary...

http://www.economist.com/obituary/displ … d=10838120

Last edited by Axe99 (Tue, Aug19 2008 5:47am)

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#624 Tue, Aug19 2008 4:09am

hsf62
Master Caster
From: Australia
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 2930

Re: The Taproom

Thanks for the link Master of Photos!
I like your title and your work shows it's earned! big_smile


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#625 Wed, Aug20 2008 3:26am

Axe99
Master of Photos
From: Australia
Registered: Fri, Aug8 2008
Posts: 44

Re: The Taproom

I'm not sure how that happened!  I've just finished painting my first Mithril in about two years, so will see if I can take a shot of it in the next couple of days and prove my title wrong wink.

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