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#1851 Wed, Jun3 2009 9:46am

erchamion
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From: Granada, Spain
Registered: Tue, Apr1 2008
Posts: 825

Re: The Taproom

I think that waiting isn´t so good. Makes people uneasy unnecessarily...roll


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#1852 Wed, Jun3 2009 11:05am

erchamion
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From: Granada, Spain
Registered: Tue, Apr1 2008
Posts: 825

Re: The Taproom

We already have the answer of Michael. Reduces the price from € 9.99 to € 6.99 per figure. Continuing the discount on the purchase of lots of three figures (€ 18.87, so that each figure comes out to € 6.29) and there is no discount for buying the complete serie. Enough? roll

In my opinion, this is a more reasonable price increase but on the other hand I still conveying unease Michael´s comment has necessitated some hard measures which will enable us to keep afloat in these difficult times hmm

Last edited by erchamion (Wed, Jun3 2009 11:08am)


¡Fuera, viejo Tumulario! ¡Desaparece a la luz! ¡Encógete como la niebla fría, llora como el viento en las tierra estériles, más allá de los montes! ¡No regreses aquí! ¡Deja vacío el túmulo! Perdido y olvidado, más sombrío que la sombra, quédate donde las puertas están cerradas para siempre, hasta los tiempos de un mundo mejor. Tom Bombadil LOTR1

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#1853 Wed, Jun3 2009 11:19am

ESTEL
The Lord of the Paints
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 497

Re: The Taproom

Have seen it yet on the website. I am happy about that!!
It is very nice to do this, but what is the reason for that reaction?  It seems arbitrary how the prices were created!


"From the ashes a fire shall be woken, 
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
The crownless again shall be king".

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#1854 Wed, Jun3 2009 11:33am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Yes, it does kind of, doesn't it? It rather suggests that the first mark-up was unnecessarily ambitious, and was plucked out of the air! Hopefully they've realised the error of their ways and won't do it again.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1855 Wed, Jun3 2009 12:00pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

I have made another long post in reaction to the announcement... As a matter of fact I was aware of the content of this announcement before Michael posted it...

I'm trying to get in touch with Mithril staff someway or another to help them work out new sales/marketing strategies to solve the situation.

As I said in my post, a price reduction is cool at the moment, but that's only a short-term solution... Other actions must be undertaken in order to solve this long-term crisis of which we only see the surface it seems.

Hopefully I'll get to discuss, on a day-to-day basis with Mithril lead staff in order to try to find out, for them, appropriate long term solutions... I have ideas... lots of... and I have contacts too... In the Tolkien universe (I used to be part and still am somehow, of the msot important communities of Tolkien dedicated fans in France... Ardalië, which is my other website, is also a tolkien community/mailing list managed by my dear wife wirílomë, all over France and Canada actually... which counts among its ranks the official translators of all Tolkien books in french...and the worldwide specialists of Tolkien elven languages)

i'm putting all my energy in this project... so the trade engine for MMP will have to wait a bit I think... Mithril health goes first... if I can add my participation somehow...


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1856 Wed, Jun3 2009 12:24pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
Posts: 2724

Re: The Taproom

Of course, these are good news. I will be able to order three more figures of that range big_smile .
@ barliman: I am not sure if it was plucked out of the air. I have read Lars´words like this: " . . . we have decided to cut costs as much as possible in other areas "
I hope these areas aren´t fellowship areas . . .
It seems there will be that sword of that greek guy called Demoklas remaining . . .


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1857 Wed, Jun3 2009 12:34pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

We shall have to wait and see. At least I've now ordered some of the new M guys, and while I was doing that I decided to bite the bullet and also ordered the remaining two Fellowship figures to fulfil my obligations for last year. Ouch! It still hurt, though, even at the reduced prices - came out to about £120... Not something I can afford to do every day, I can tell you!


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1858 Wed, Jun3 2009 1:27pm

Gavin
Skilled Artisan
From: Canada
Registered: Wed, Jan30 2008
Posts: 936

Re: The Taproom

Well, Mithril now has a twitter page - this is a good start. Though there's only two followers. (search for Prince August in Twitter)

And I was going to suggest, drywall and general grumpiness permitting, that I could probably justify a 50% price increase on a figure, but certainly not 80%.

Well, now I got what I sort of kinda wanted. Though no price increase would have been nicer.

I just did a quick calculation of how much it will cost to get myself up to date with the ol Mithrils - 500 euro! (including shipping).

Eeek.

Maybe after the house is sold, or as a house-sold-birthday-christmas-present to myself. :p

Gavin

Last edited by Gavin (Wed, Jun3 2009 2:28pm)

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#1859 Wed, Jun3 2009 2:40pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

This Twitter thingy seems a bit odd to me. Reminds me of that old Bree expression about "washing your socks in public". Why tell the whole world that you've been dumb enough to tick off your customers?

I also like the phraseology in the latest email from Mithril, claiming a "massive discount" of 30% on the Helm's Deep figures! Perhaps that's why they made them so expensive in the first place, so that they could then make it sound as if they're dropping their prices rather than putting them up?


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1860 Wed, Jun3 2009 2:46pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
Website

Re: The Taproom

Huooommmm ... I'm glad to hear that Mithril's giving -in in the prices seems to allow more people to afford at least some more of the figures ... rhuooommm ... though Master Gildor is right saying that this only is a short-term effect that pleases customers .... hoommm ... as Master O'Brian pointed out all this was only possible because of certain cuts in other areas ... huom ...
So, now what about those drinks you promised, Master Barliman? ....

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#1861 Wed, Jun3 2009 2:53pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

What about the rumour you promised, Master Tree...?


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1862 Wed, Jun3 2009 3:03pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
Posts: 2724

Re: The Taproom

15....null......big_smile


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1863 Wed, Jun3 2009 7:38pm

presto247365
Adventurer
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 94

Re: The Taproom

Well, the response from Mithril was indeed swift and welcome, so it's nice to know they listen to the core customers.  Now, I feel that I should encourage this discourse by placing an order for the Helm's deep stuff, and maybe catch up on a few others.  I'm in the same boat as Gavin, waaaay behind what I can currently afford!hmm

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#1864 Wed, Jun3 2009 8:31pm

OriginalAragorn
Strider
From: California
Registered: Fri, Apr3 2009
Posts: 257

Re: The Taproom

I was happy to see Mithril prominently displayed on a miniatures website (Miniature Heroes).

This kind of thing is great advertising (as long as enough people see it).

See link below.

George

http://www.miniature-heroes.co.uk/brows … age-1.html


And here we find you feasting and idling - and smoking! Smoking! Where did you come by the weed, you villains? - Gimli

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#1865 Thu, Jun4 2009 1:54am

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

You know guys, I hate to say this, but I may not be able to keep collecting these great miniatures anymore.sad
I am hitting on hard times right now and I don't see an end in sight. I so want to keep getting miniatures, but don't have the cash flow to allow that! I need to feed my family first and have a home to live, so I may stop collecting. I am glad that the prices went down, but it still isn't enough for me. I will keep posting what minis I do have when they are painted, but I don't really know how much longer I can keep up with all of you.
Maybe things might change for me, but I really have to be realistic about my life right now.

Jason neutral


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#1866 Thu, Jun4 2009 4:30am

OriginalAragorn
Strider
From: California
Registered: Fri, Apr3 2009
Posts: 257

Re: The Taproom

Jason - thanks for sharing that.  In today's times collecting is truly a luxury.  Life is very cyclical, so hopefully things will get back to where you want them to be and you'll be able to collect again.  You sound like your priorities are in the right place.  Your family is lucky to have you.

In the meanwhile, keep on painting!  And keep on posting.

George


And here we find you feasting and idling - and smoking! Smoking! Where did you come by the weed, you villains? - Gimli

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#1867 Thu, Jun4 2009 7:22am

protozeus
Adventurer
From: A Cave in the Woods
Registered: Fri, Sep19 2008
Posts: 251

Re: The Taproom

... and keep your collection, otherwise one day when times are better you would regret it. -Ben


ménin aeíde, theá, beórnou órkeiphágou!

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#1868 Thu, Jun4 2009 7:23am

twrich
The Man in the Dark
From: Minneapolis, MN USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 752

Re: The Taproom

I repeat George's  and protozeus' thoughts, keep on painting and posting; collect when you can; sell only if you have to.

Last edited by twrich (Thu, Jun4 2009 7:26am)


"All that is gold does not glitter, not all those that wander are lost." (Strider, The Fellowship of the Ring)

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#1869 Thu, Jun4 2009 7:28am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Alternatively, get rid of the family and indulge yourself...


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1870 Thu, Jun4 2009 7:30am

twrich
The Man in the Dark
From: Minneapolis, MN USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 752

Re: The Taproom

As long as you are here Barli, so late at night, I'll take another ale.

Last edited by twrich (Thu, Jun4 2009 7:32am)


"All that is gold does not glitter, not all those that wander are lost." (Strider, The Fellowship of the Ring)

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#1871 Thu, Jun4 2009 7:33am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Late at night? I think you're on the wrong side of the counter., my itinerant friend. It's early morning here in Bree.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1872 Thu, Jun4 2009 7:37am

erchamion
Adventurer
From: Granada, Spain
Registered: Tue, Apr1 2008
Posts: 825

Re: The Taproom

Jason, stop buy for a while but don´t forget to paint. When better times return, you can resume the purchase. But above all, don´t leave this forum. The economic crisis doesn´t have to reach out to friends .....smile


¡Fuera, viejo Tumulario! ¡Desaparece a la luz! ¡Encógete como la niebla fría, llora como el viento en las tierra estériles, más allá de los montes! ¡No regreses aquí! ¡Deja vacío el túmulo! Perdido y olvidado, más sombrío que la sombra, quédate donde las puertas están cerradas para siempre, hasta los tiempos de un mundo mejor. Tom Bombadil LOTR1

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#1873 Thu, Jun4 2009 2:02pm

Wendy
Slowest Painter Ever
From: Michigan, USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 365
Website

Re: The Taproom

Don't worry Jason, it isn't a requirement to buy all Mithrils to hang out here.  big_smile

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#1874 Thu, Jun4 2009 2:29pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
Posts: 2724

Re: The Taproom

That makes me kinda sad, Jason. You are a great man. But I agree to George and Ben totally. We won´t loose you. That´s for sure !
Remember, you have to inform us about your great Helm´s Deep project and all the other works in progress you are not aware at present . . . but tomorrow . . . big_smile
As far as I am concerned I rebuild my complete range the third time . . .


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1875 Thu, Jun4 2009 3:07pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Three times? Wow. That must require stamina! - no to mention determination.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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