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#1351 Mon, Jan30 2012 7:25pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

The odd thing is that GW changed ro resin because metal was becoming too expensive....and instantly increased all their prices!


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#1352 Mon, Jan30 2012 8:25pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

my doctor , who is a tolkien figurine collector&painter too (if you can believe that!)  showed me one of the last olog hai troll in resin from GW.... supposedly of high quality and better than metal... we both agreed that it was very poor... bad assembly, bent parts due to "plastic"  resin... and the whole thing for 25€ !!!!

definitly Mithril is a better "affair" than GW at the moment!!! even with their high price, HD2 is better quality and less expensive than GW!!


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#1353 Mon, Jan30 2012 8:58pm

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

I whole-heartedly agree. I've not heard a kind word from anyone yet about GW's resin casting - and of course, unlike metal the "bent" parts can't simply be straightened out!

Meanwhile, on the subject of this latest batch of GW/LOTR travesties, I'm simply amazed that MEE are permitting such abominations - or is the liecnsing of the movie-based figures entirely in Newline's hands? I've never quite understood where one set of rights ends and the next begins...


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#1354 Mon, Jan30 2012 11:50pm

cameosis
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Barliman wrote:

"this" what......?

online lingo for agreeing completely with something someone wrote earlier.

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

my doctor , who is a tolkien figurine collector&painter too (if you can believe that!)  showed me one of the last olog hai troll in resin from GW

that's why i bought mine cast in metal -- some of the best troll sculpts around!


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#1355 Mon, Jan30 2012 11:55pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

well we may not speak about the same thing cameo... it is a brand new troll and it seems that now GW promoted plasti/resin and will cease or totally reduce their metal production...

this guy is a collector of metal miniatures (all kinds of armies, and cars) and would never have bought a plastic thing if there was a metal alternative...


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#1356 Tue, Jan31 2012 3:07am

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

they have switched most of the more popular models to finecrap, you can only get the metal versions on ebay or from stores which have remaining stock, second hand is an option as well. games workshop sells resin exclusively of these updated models.

i've got all their trolls except the mines of moria troll, which is only included in the box and is cast in plastic, and the half-trolls.

these are or were all metal, originally:

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1251419_99061466020_ColLotRCaveTrollMain_873x627.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1251399_99061466004_ColLotRCaveTrollChainMain_873x627.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1251404_99061466008_ColLotRCaveTrollSpearMain_873x627.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1181025_99061466028_EvilBuhrdurMain_873x627.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1252239_99111466019_ColLotrMordorCatapultTrollMain_873x627.jpg
http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1181215_99111499033_EvilTrollChieftainMain_873x627.jpg

this one is plastic and you can effectively make five different troll models out of it:

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1580085_99121466002_LotrMordorIsengardTrollMain3_873x627.jpg


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#1357 Tue, Jan31 2012 8:21am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

cameosis wrote:

Barliman wrote:

"this" what......?

online lingo for agreeing completely with something someone wrote earlier.

Sorry, that's me being old-fashioned I guess - I only speak English, not txt or computer patois! - I suspect my preference for genuine English makes me a bit of a dinosaur these days (but at least a dinosaur that anyone can understand).

(Exits stage left, grumbling loudly.)


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#1358 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:06am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

if you want I can teach you some of those odd online and MMO languages barliman wink being a hardcore practicioner myself even if I am french

though this vocabulary would not be fitting in such a board... and is more intended for live chat and "fighting strategies" or network behaviors.

(brb asap, afk, rofl, afaik, iirc, ld, gg, aoe, dot, dps, hps, buffwhore, fyi and sooo many others smile


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#1359 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:15am

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Er, no thanks. I have difficulty enough coping with English, and like Gaffer Gamgee I don't like change....


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#1360 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:19am

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Barliman wrote:

Take a look at the latest LOTR crud coming from the dread GW:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal … GameStyle=

I'm not damning the quality of the modelling work, most of which is to a high standard no doubt, but the concepts themselves. I mean, where are their visualisers coming from with these ideas?

Sorry, but I have to leave now or I wont reach the lavatory before I throw up.....

I'm agree with you master Barliman... fine modeling figures but only impersonal copies of film characters.....

p.s. Have you managed to reach the lavatory or you have vomited in your wife's favorite carpet lolrollmad


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#1361 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:22am

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

yes actually i was about to say the same... compared to GW... Mithril is less expensive now !! Ironic isn't it?

It is not ironic... they have now thousands of customers across teh world and they can afford consumerist arrogance.....

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#1362 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:23am

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

my doctor , who is a tolkien figurine collector&painter too (if you can believe that!)  showed me one of the last olog hai troll in resin from GW.... supposedly of high quality and better than metal... we both agreed that it was very poor... bad assembly, bent parts due to "plastic"  resin... and the whole thing for 25€ !!!!

definitly Mithril is a better "affair" than GW at the moment!!! even with their high price, HD2 is better quality and less expensive than GW!!

Agree 100%


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#1363 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:29am

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Master Cameosis is right. At the time he bought the metal piece and now enjoys. Figre of resin are fragile.....and good enough for true collections. Collections, which should last for many years. I am all that I had donated to the neighbor's children and little cousins....


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#1364 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:48am

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

I just received today at last the first five HD2 figurines! I could not believe it, HD2 in my hands at last!

no Sauron yet though...
Well those figurines could be celtic warriors actually I'm certain you can boost up this army with the celtic warriors range from PA smile

I will add them to database soon

These are very good news... Now that minis are back on production on Mithril, I hope that  the some of us that are pending from MS532 get them soon (still not in stock, as still says in mithril webpage) hmm


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Rick: In America they'd bring only a penny, and, huh, I guess that's about all they're worth.

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#1365 Tue, Jan31 2012 12:37pm

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Barliman wrote:

cameosis wrote:

Barliman wrote:

"this" what......?

online lingo for agreeing completely with something someone wrote earlier.

Sorry, that's me being old-fashioned I guess - I only speak English, not txt or computer patois!

i'd have to disagree here -- english it is -- patois would be "dis".


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#1366 Tue, Jan31 2012 1:20pm

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

There's no such word as "dis" in the English language, so I'm afraid I don't know what you mean. And if you start excluding borrowed words like patois from English we'd soon end up with no language left!


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#1367 Tue, Jan31 2012 4:29pm

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

dear innkeeper,

au contraire, "dis" is a verb -> "to dis someone". colloquial english, but english nonetheless.

besides, you mentioned patois ... ask jamaicans if they are more familiar with "this" or with "dis" ...


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#1368 Tue, Jan31 2012 4:34pm

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Huuooommmm ... linguistic discussions in the "Pony" ... rhuoommm ... all I know is that "Dis" is a Mithril-figure .... huoomm ...

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#1369 Tue, Jan31 2012 5:12pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

cameosis wrote:

"dis" is a verb -> "to dis someone". colloquial english, but english nonetheless.

Au contraire, I'm afraid "dis" isn't in any English dictionary I've ever seen, and I have five by me - all the latest editions - even as I key this. As far as I'm concerned it's simply slang - calling it a colloquialism is a courtesy it doesn't merit.

Texting is already murdering the English language. If we're going to adopt every temporarily trendy new word invented by spotty teenagers then the language is doomed.

Which it probably is...


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#1370 Tue, Jan31 2012 5:49pm

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Huuuoooommmm ... I wasn't trying to interfere in  linguistic talk between wise men or even experts, Master Barliman .... rhuuooo mmm ... I simply tried to point out that "Dis" is a name in Dwarven language provided in the Mithril-range .... rhuom ... you might ask Master Thrain about this, then he'll tell you she's his daughter ... huomm ... Master Gildor, for example, would rather call her M161, I think ... huoomm ... and besides, Entish is much more difficult to cope with than English, I think ... huoomm ... though it doesn't change very much, but has to descibe each new word correctly ... which, sometimes, takes a lot of time ... rhuuohûomrh hoooooom huom oooooohmmm  ... hom! .. húuuoomm óm ûm huom

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#1371 Tue, Jan31 2012 7:02pm

Barliman
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Not a problem, Master Tree. I've about given up hope of people wanting to preserve formal English, so it makes just as much sense to talk about Dwarves or Entish. They're more interesting subjects anyway.

And on another subject entirely, I notice that no one has as yet offered to interpret the copyright boundaries for me regarding the rights owned by MEE and Newline. It was a seious question - I really don't understand at the moment, though I'm guessing it has something to do with movie rights versus the printed word. The thing is, I'm genuinely appalled at the horrible monstrosities that GW are about to inflict upon the world under the LOTR banner without apparent objection from anybody. I mean, Mithril submit The Man's designs for approval ny MEE. Don't GW have to do anything similar? Would MEE give permission for the same figures to be produced by Mithril? I don't think so!


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#1372 Tue, Jan31 2012 9:28pm

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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Barliman wrote:

cameosis wrote:

"dis" is a verb -> "to dis someone". colloquial english, but english nonetheless.

Au contraire, I'm afraid "dis" isn't in any English dictionary I've ever seen, and I have five by me - all the latest editions - even as I key this. As far as I'm concerned it's simply slang - calling it a colloquialism is a courtesy it doesn't merit.

Texting is already murdering the English language. If we're going to adopt every temporarily trendy new word invented by spotty teenagers then the language is doomed.

Which it probably is...

here you go:
http://dict.leo.org/ende?lp=ende&la … search=dis

best dictionary portal there is, to my mind (not only for english) -- they collaborate with dictionary publishing houses and companies which donate specialized dictionaries to the project.

without wanting to hijack the thread (i will leave it at this post in regard to the subject), let me add that slang is a very important area of any language, no less than formal language. great writers have used colloquial language and slang extensively in their work, and of all the dictionaries i own (and i own a lot), the slang ones are the most fun to read.

living languages change, evolve, transform -- it's inevitable. saying that "texting is murdering the language" is wrong as far as i am concerned -- and i'm not even a fan of cell phones, or better yet, own one.

it's just change through means that are accessible to most people ... were this not the case, people in britain would still use old english (perish the thought). successful words will become part of the language, others will fade back into oblivion.

the beauty of it is that we don't have to follow trends, but it doesn't mean that our choices are better than those other people prefer (although we like to tell ourselves that they are). for instance, everybody and their mother uses english loanwords in german, whenever possible, regardless if anybody really understands what is meant. i refuse to do so, and stick to german -- and i'm fine with that.

on another note the verb "dis" has been around for some 30 years, if not more ... i first heard it on hip hop records, but there may be older sources, so definitely not a fad: "the new york times" has been known to use it, too:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/educa … rap-t.html

if you don't want a language to "succumb" to nasty trends, you'll have to turn to latin -- it's dead.

and yes, the ent has again proven that he has a keen eye and a swift mind: there is a mithril figure called dis!


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#1373 Tue, Jan31 2012 10:08pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

we have the same problem with french being sometimes totally "raped" in its integrity under the banner of a "living tongue that has to evolve".... I personnaly am against such nonsense but that's my personnal opinion... some modification, new words are fine and necessary but some radical change in the spelling of names to fit phonetics rather than ethymology is absurd and grotesque...

well that's my point of view.... Now about english that's a bit more complex as there is original british english.... and american english... and there are quite some differences, long time established


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#1374 Tue, Jan31 2012 11:02pm

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Hmmmm. Debating the matter any further is clearly futile, Master Cameosis, since you're as dedicated to your viewpoint as I am to mine. In the meantime I think I'll continue to use the classic Shorter Oxford English Dictionary as I earn my crust every day editing books.

Happily, since English has thrived over the centuries, as you say, by being flexible, fleeting slang terms such as dis will eventually vanish. The sooner the better.

Even the online dictionary still fails to answer my original query regarding what "dis" actually means, and I note that it defines the word as American slang (hence the NY TImes being happy to use it), and therefore, of course, not actually English at all.

But to paraphrase a famous Elf, by trying to preserve formal English in the age of misspelt blogs I am, of course, no more than fighting a rearguard action in a long defeat.


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#1375 Tue, Jan31 2012 11:05pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

we have the same problem with french being sometimes totally "raped" in its integrity under the banner of a "living tongue that has to evolve".... I personnaly am against such nonsense but that's my personnal opinion... some modification, new words are fine and necessary but some radical change in the spelling of names to fit phonetics rather than ethymology is absurd and grotesque...

...and I agree entirely, Master Elf!


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