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I am still waiting for mine to start competiton. I have no special idea except my painting shall remain as already done for Gandalf, Galadriel and Elrond other minis.
I have a question for every one: What is written on papers on the table ?

Last edited by Milo (Thu, Dec16 2010 8:18pm)

Milo wrote:

I am still waiting for mine to start competiton. I have no special idea except my painting shall remain as already done for Gandalf, Galadriel and Elrond other minis.
I have a question for every one: What is written on papers on the table ?

The big scrolls could be a maps. One of the whole Northwest of Middle-eart (the big one) and the other one of Mirkwood (because the Necromancer's presence). And the small one (is it a book?) could have some tengwar-like scripture.

To prevent that every contest-partner will show a Orthanc base . . .

Could it be imaginable that the White Council took place at different places? Maybe at Rivendell. Maybe at Lothlorien . . . Maybe elsewhere . . . 
What do you think?

See, you don't need a tree for Christmas-riddles ....

Yes, I can.

Yes, I have that one Master Tree, but I thought I saw posted somewhere an extended 'interpretation' of what ME may have looked like, but since asking I may have found this image anyway.

As you say, KWF's book may be best for what I need it for, many thanks

ddaines wrote:

Theobald wrote:

See, you don't need a tree for Christmas-riddles ....

, I want the best of both worlds Master Tree, hopefully all will become clear. While we're here, I recall that a map of Middle-earth was posted that showed an 'extension' of ME. Are you able to recall where this map was posted please?

Excuse me for jumping in. The map you are refering to is the Ambarkanta (meaning "Shape of the World"). It's a chapter in The Shaping of Middle-earth, the fourth volume of The History of Middle-earth series, which includes an sketch by Tolkien himself:




For a detalied well-thought map based on this one and its evolution through the Ages of Arda, I recommend the articles in issues number 1 and 2 of Other Minds Magazine.

Can I drop a line also Master Turambar? I do not have any of these nices maps...

You also have some artistic renditions online, like this one and this one.

Considering which maps to fit the scene one should keep in mind what the second meeting of the White Council (T.A. 2851) was about. I think it doesn't make much sense that a "global map" was of any interest, as the core of the discussion was focused on a certain region.
I think that the two larger opened scrolls on the table have to be maps. The third, small one, could be a map, too, maybe showing details of a fortress. I don't think that the Istari were in need of written documents then. Though in the MV360 we have a globe and 3 books at Saruman's place.
These are just my ideas.

Mapping is always a topic I'm willing to jump onto

The Fonstad atlas is excellent - especially where the Northwest is considered. For the - more or less vague - remainder of the continent, it has certain weaknesses 8without wanting to lessen her work!). Not only for the scarcity of original information, but also for conclusions on that. The good point to acknowledge is that she was aware of more recent evidence and thus significantly altered her world map between the 1st and 2nd editions of her work.
A good example of an academic approach: The state of the Tolkien lore is evolving and not static. For this insight alone she deserves high merits. I'm sure that she would have considered updating the atlas even a second time - so sad she passed away so early

Especially the article in Other Minds 2 (and to a lesser extent the one in OM1) deals with the original evidence of the world design, plus the merits (and weaknesses) of Karen Fonstad's approach.

A great problem (obviously) is the unfinished state of world design that Tolkien left us. But as already mentioned: For everyone interested in Tolkien world mapping, the two articles in OM1 and 2 are highly recommended

Cheers
Tolwen

So guys "The White council" is in the drawer, the colors are purchased... and from tomorrow I'm ready to new adventure....