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#1 Tue, Apr16 2019 10:19am

TaxD2
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From: Paris, France
Registered: Mon, Mar11 2019
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Several questions regarding figurines

Hello everyone !

As you may know, i am new with mithril miniatures and i have several questions regarding primed minifigures.
This is the first time i see a company selling primed minifigures, and i obviously saw that some minifigures are sold primed and other not, which i wish i know why (i am not talking about the collector's one with black shadows).

Also, i don't understand why mithril would impose a grey undercoating which i think is quite thick, while i choose my undercoating (black, white or grey) according to how i want to paint my minifigures.

Thus, i have a huge preference for unprimed minifigs, however there are a lot of primed figs i would like to buy, and this undercoating seems very hard to remove. Do you have any tips ?

Thank you !

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#2 Tue, Apr16 2019 5:43pm

hsf62
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

Grey undercoat was the trademark of Mithril. The details are a lot more visible. I love it. I also undercoat my conversions grey!

The best results removing the undercoat I had with placing the minis in a glass with lid filled with thinner. Let them sit in it for a few hours then use a old toothbrush to clean of the undercoat. Repeat if need be. wink
If you got very hard to remove undercoating, you can use a paintstripper fo metal also.

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#3 Tue, Apr16 2019 9:08pm

ddaines
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

Personally I think it was a very good marketing ploy as the grey-primed figures were what caught my eye all those years ago. I'm not a small figure collector in general, but have a passion for Tolkien's works, and had the grey primer not caught my eye then years of pleasure and empty wallet would not have happened smile.

There have been various posts elsewhere regarding the grey primer that Mithril use/used, but that is another story wink

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#4 Tue, Apr16 2019 11:13pm

TaxD2
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

Maybe mithril should give the choice producing unprimed and primed version of minifigures

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#5 Wed, Apr17 2019 12:36pm

Maenas
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From: Barcelona, Spain
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

Hi TaxD,

I was a fan of the grey primer too, it gave a special and specific look to the brand.

Personally, as years passed and I started to paint a little better, the first thing I do nowadays is to remove that thick undercoat, because it covers a lot of detail.

I also think that Mithril as a brand is moving towards the nonprimed version, and on the newest miniatures (MZXXX) I think,  the web offers you the choice of buying them without primer. But since my last purchase was quite long ago, I cannot assure you that.

PS: Mithril should do a lot of things... but they simply not do them. I consider a take it or leave it company... But they are deeply rooted on my heart so I cannot leave them. xD

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#6 Wed, Apr17 2019 9:31pm

TaxD2
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

Hello Maenas,

I agree, i have an orc on warg minifigure in my hands, and the details on the face are not great because of the undercoat being too thick in some places.
Most likely, it depends on the minifig, but i will systematically remove the undercoat if the minifig has one.

"PS: Mithril should do a lot of things... but they simply not do them. I consider a take it or leave it company... But they are deeply rooted on my heart so I cannot leave them. xD"

Indeed, i plan to take what i think is the best of mithril, i noticed a lot of disparities, even if the most recent minifigures are just really great (the boats, elves and dwarves especially) and most of them don't have the undercoat, i think mithril giving up this practice is for the best smile

Regarding the option of buying primed or unprimed minifigures, it is not available as an option but i was planning to ask if it is possible to order unprimed minifigures when they are not to sell as such, even if i expect a no. Besides, it might not be relevent since they stop littlt by little but it might be worth the try smile

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#7 Thu, Apr18 2019 12:21am

Theobald
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

For quite a while Mithril does not sell any primed figures since the MZ-series was started. Primed figures you find and get are all from older stocks. As far as I know.

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#8 Wed, Apr24 2019 2:29pm

Milo
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

You are right master Ent. On my side, I tend to put grey primer by myself for I love the eye effect. Still I agree my primer is not a thick one as per mithril old minis.


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#9 Wed, Apr24 2019 6:52pm

TaxD2
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From: Paris, France
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

Yes my main issue isn't particularly the color of the primer, i can deal with it, but the thikness of the undercoat is annoying, fortunately (imo) this practice tends to disappear

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#10 Thu, Apr25 2019 8:39am

Milo
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

To remove old primer, acetone is working very well. Just let the mini few minutes in acetone and use old tooth brush to get a clean miniature ready for painting.


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#11 Fri, Jun14 2019 8:58pm

cameosis
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Re: Several questions regarding figurines

dettol seems to be even better. there are a number of youtube videos detailing which product is best to help remove old paintjobs and primers almost completely with no or hardly any damage to the miniatures.

Last edited by cameosis (Sat, Jun15 2019 9:07pm)


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#12 Sat, Jun15 2019 10:52am

TaxD2
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From: Paris, France
Registered: Mon, Mar11 2019
Posts: 18

Re: Several questions regarding figurines

Thank you, i did try acetone but it barely scorched the paint sad

Last edited by TaxD2 (Sat, Jun15 2019 11:14am)

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