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Huoommm ... rhuom ... so much to comment here ... hom
Yes, Master Barliman, it was also me being surprised about the "restrictions" by Master O'Brian ... rhuoommm ... I also complained about that and then was told to regard of it better as to "having a new idea(topic)" for suggestions ... of course not wanting to limit suggestions to a certain topic ... rhuoommmm ... whatever that means ... gggrruoooohhm ... anyway, some people kept to their own ideas and suggested them, disregarding this new "idea" by Master O'Brian ... huomm ... I feel fine with the result of the last vote, as that Dunlending-musician-suggestion wasn't based on such thoughts .... rhuooommmm ...
Yes, and I do hope he'll be blowing a carnyx ... huoommm ... as I am also sure that The Man's idea of sculpting Dunlendings very clearly always was based on Celtic art and design ... huoomm ... I already talked about that somewhere else lately .... rhuoommm
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Huoommm ... I just saw your entry after having printed mine , Master Erchamion ... hoomm ...
that graphic is a good help, I think ... huom ... it clearly points out the differences in origin ... hom ... so to me that means, when we talk about 'Easterlings' of the Third Age' we can imagine them as people from the area of Rhûn ... huom ... of course being different from those from Khand ... rhuoommm ... the Haradrim, though all of these have a certain common origin in the second age, also took different areas to dwell ... huomm ... let me try to cut it short, please ...
3rd Age:
Easterlings (Balchoth) from Rhûn
Variags from Khand
Haradrim, from far further south, so from Harad and Far-Harad (Southrons)
Huoommm ... that's what I'd say interpreting your 'graphic', Master Erchamion .... huoomm
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Indeed, Master Theobald. The ´Eastern group` would be more or less set in the Third Age as you say. A little appreciation, the Balchoth were called ´Wainriders`(I think it is in English, ´Aurigas`in Spanish) at the beginning of the Third Age (until 2000 TA or so). Somehow the Balchoth and Wainriders were related, so to speak. If I'm not wrong ...
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Out of interest, what does 'Aurigas' translate into English as? Does it mean the same as 'Wainriders' (i.e., riders on wagons)?
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Barliman wrote:
Out of interest, what does 'Aurigas' translate into English as? Does it mean the same as 'Wainriders' (i.e., riders on wagons)?
'Auriga' in Spanish comes directly from Latin. Men in ancient Greece and Rome ruled the horses of the racing cars on the circus.
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Huoommmmrhuoommm ... yes, again our dear Master Erchamion is right, I think ... huom ... I just didn't want to get into details with my last entry ... rhuoomm ...
... and those 'Balchoth' were those, called "Wainriders" ... as far as I can remember ... rhuoommm ... those people did not always ride only horses, but rather preferred to being carried by them into war on chariots ... ruoom ...
as far as I know ... that's a bit different from the Easterlings from Rhûn, who were used to ride horses ... rhuoommm ...
Alas, Master Barliman ... some things are discussed here at the Pony .... rhûm ... why not hand me over a very nice-well-filled and topped-up bowl of that clear-clean-sparkeling-watery liquid ...
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Thank you very much for these detailed informations, Master erchamion! It helps a lot finding the real differences.
As far as I am concerned I do not hide my passion about these troups from the east. I can see clearly now . . .
The reason for floating around this evening making my mind up preparing the next project . . . ![]()
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Awesome Master Archer!
I need one too!!!

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Brodda is a chief of a tribe of men from the east...of Beleriand. So its entirely likely Brodda was from Eriador. It's also entirely likely that Brodda was from a tribe somewhat akin to Turin's people themselves.
The term "easterling" means "one from the east" its an old, and "real" English word with an old Germanic root. So in the Icelandic sagas, some Norwegians are called Easterlings. In the German sagas, the Huns are called Easterlings. In the Lord of the Rings, the Easterlings owe a lot to those Hunnic tribes. The Silmarillion Easterlings are something more old school.
They could be related. It's likely they are not. MERP explicitly links the Silmarillion Easterlings to the barrow building folk who may have been the ancestors of the Hillmen.
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Those words are from new newsletter come to our e-mail few minutes ago... nice theme to discussion....
This month marks the end of five years (and the beginning of the next five) of the Gold Status Fellowship club, and Lars has suggested a Mithrilfest in late September possibly to celebrate it. I am awaiting Chris Tubb's confirmation that he could attend and I will publish more information. If you are interested in meeting your fellowship friends and Chris and taking part in sculpting/painting/diorama building and photographing workshops and having some celtic entertainment then email me and let me know. This is still just an idea but with enough support we will make it happen.
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I will definitely go for it (if the calendar allows me to quit family for few days).
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Me too! This event is E X T R A O R D I N A R Y ! I suppose I am again in Bretagne at that time (collecting rocks . . .)
And there is a possibility to pick up a ferry from Roscoff (close to our house) to Cork !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I will try to attend also, along with member cfisher.
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I suggest Master Gildor raises a new Topic for such event.
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this is an idea yes... still with so few information regarding a mithrilfest... I don't know what to begin this topic with...
besides, this is supposed to be a GF only event... opening a public topic talking about it in the pony could be a leakage? I don't know but it's certainly a good idea to have a topic somewhere to discuss it... question is.. where..
I wish I could attend too... though I don't know if my time and my money will allow it...
it mostly depends on financial matters at the moment..
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Very interesting! Any exact dates? 
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Huoommm ... please mind that Master O'Brian just tried to sort out about this idea ... huomm ... as far as I can see ... huommmrhuoomm ... so nothing's settled ... just read the latest newsletter before you start hasting your thoughts .... rhuoommm ... though a very good idea that is, indeed ... huom ....
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Maybe we can organize a mithrilfest for ourselves . . .
That would be less expensive travel to green Ireland.
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If the thing was in August, I'd go (the sister is getting married), but I can't really hang about till the end of September. There's cats to take care of, you understand.
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This is a great idea, and would be nice even if Chris couldn't attend (best if he could), but needs to be determined months, or even a year, in advance so that we all could make the best arrangements
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well indeed that could help... personnaly, visiting Chris in London would be easier than going to Cork lol (I have some family to host me in London, but nobody at Cork)
Unless Mithril plans to have "logistic solutions" to "host the event" which includes meals, and rooms... like many other shows/events do.... but these kinds of "organised events" with organised hostings only apply to MASS events usually with many thousands people....
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... I have possibility to fly with Ryanair from Zadar for few euros.. everyday flight from Pula airport few km from my town and rent a car to Cork... I hope there are some hotels in Cork... and I have connections in tourist business and tour-operators so they could me arrange room prices for agents ( usually 20% less ) ... not so expensive and no so impossible... my wife's give me "green light" and we will see.... have a nice day to all.... let's enjoy with plans about this possible event... 
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Huoommm ... sorry to interrupt this discussion ... hom ... but last Monday Master Rita.de asked me to provide pics of that eagle-thing ... huoommm ... MS553 ... and I promised to do so ... hom![]()
this is what we have seen ...![]()
this is a different point of view ...![]()
and a last one ![]()
Master Gildor said that this "little diorama is superb" I do not want to contradict. I think that The Man is improving his way of sculpting eagles very successfully
rhuoommm...hom ... that's it ...
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