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#4476 Fri, Oct8 2010 6:46am
- Barliman
- The famous Innkeeper
- From: Bree
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 4331
Re: The Taproom
Huh? What's the point of doing this sort of promotion if you don't tell anyone about it? Has anyone received an email advsing them about the sale? I certainly haven't.
Mithril really couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery, could they.
"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."
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#4477 Fri, Oct8 2010 7:41am
- erchamion
- Adventurer
- From: Granada, Spain
- Registered: Tue, Apr1 2008
- Posts: 825
Re: The Taproom
oohhhhh!!! 27.1% off everything!!!! I think I´ll take it.......
¡Fuera, viejo Tumulario! ¡Desaparece a la luz! ¡Encógete como la niebla fría, llora como el viento en las tierra estériles, más allá de los montes! ¡No regreses aquí! ¡Deja vacío el túmulo! Perdido y olvidado, más sombrío que la sombra, quédate donde las puertas están cerradas para siempre, hasta los tiempos de un mundo mejor. Tom Bombadil LOTR1
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#4478 Fri, Oct8 2010 7:44am
- Barliman
- The famous Innkeeper
- From: Bree
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 4331
Re: The Taproom
I've just done the same. I didn't really want to fork out this month, but the opportunity to get some figures 'cheap' (well, less expensively) that I've wanted for a while was too good to miss.
I ask again, did anyone receive an email about the sale?
"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."
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#4479 Fri, Oct8 2010 7:55am
- erchamion
- Adventurer
- From: Granada, Spain
- Registered: Tue, Apr1 2008
- Posts: 825
Re: The Taproom
I don´t. Yesterday it wasn´t advertised, so that the same Michael is planning to send a message through this morning ....... 
¡Fuera, viejo Tumulario! ¡Desaparece a la luz! ¡Encógete como la niebla fría, llora como el viento en las tierra estériles, más allá de los montes! ¡No regreses aquí! ¡Deja vacío el túmulo! Perdido y olvidado, más sombrío que la sombra, quédate donde las puertas están cerradas para siempre, hasta los tiempos de un mundo mejor. Tom Bombadil LOTR1
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#4480 Fri, Oct8 2010 8:25am
- Turambar
- Archer of Mirkwood
- From: Germany
- Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
- Posts: 2724
Re: The Taproom
I don´t neither, Master Barliman.
But that is exactly what I have been waiting for . . .
Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.
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#4481 Fri, Oct8 2010 8:46am
- Milo
- The Attic Warden
- From: Toulouse, France
- Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
- Posts: 4454
Re: The Taproom
I bought "Gandalf and Gwaihir" last week.... too bad:mad:
Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
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J.R.R.Tolkien
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#4482 Fri, Oct8 2010 9:06am
- Gildor Inglorion
- Wandering Elf
- From: Montpellier, France
- Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
- Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom
no mail received either....
"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)
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#4483 Fri, Oct8 2010 9:09am
- Barliman
- The famous Innkeeper
- From: Bree
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 4331
Re: The Taproom
Well, Master Erchamion, even if a message is sent out today, that's already a day of the sale gone, since it seems to have officially started on the 7th...
They just have no idea how to promote their product at all.Everything to do with marketing is done in a sort of half-hearted, casual fashion, as if it's all a bit too much trouble to bother about.
"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."
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#4484 Fri, Oct8 2010 11:26am
- Gildor Inglorion
- Wandering Elf
- From: Montpellier, France
- Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
- Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom
the problem is.. the need a HUMAN person to do this, in the person of Michael who has , because of that, far too much work to accomplish in a given day of work...
They'd have to automatize many things about their online web activities.... but, doing it from scratch is easy, doing it upon an existing system is rather harder... Considering they keep telling me "Mithril is not our only preoccupation at the moment, we have many things to attend" we can assume that they mean : Either Mithril "half-lives" with what is currently affected to it or we won't bother shutting this business down...
One must remember that usually when people makes BIG sales operations outside the given periods of times of "officiale annual sales", it tends to mean "broken prices! broken prices!!... emptying stocks before closing!!"
"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)
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#4485 Fri, Oct8 2010 11:29am
Re: The Taproom
No mail on my inbox... on mithril.ie there in so any notice about this offer... let's wait now till sunday 10th... .... if this is a true I'll buy all Christmas figures...27% off - 17% extra for non EU buyers... and this is for me.... 
cheers !
.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!
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#4486 Fri, Oct8 2010 11:44am
- Barliman
- The famous Innkeeper
- From: Bree
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 4331
Re: The Taproom
Gildor Inglorion wrote:
the problem is.. the need a HUMAN person to do this, in the person of Michael who has , because of that, far too much work to accomplish in a given day of work...
How much work would it really take to generate the most basic of emails and get it sent to the Fellowship members and Newsletter subscribers? It would take minimal effort, I'm sure. They manage to send us emails regarding voting and poll results. Sending out a heads-up regarding a sale would take no more effort, and would generate far more income!
I repeat again, they really have no idea how to sell their product.
"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."
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#4487 Fri, Oct8 2010 1:04pm
- Gildor Inglorion
- Wandering Elf
- From: Montpellier, France
- Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
- Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom
do you know that Michael has to calculate manually all price changes and in this case the coding to adapt those 27.1% in the code of shoping basket.
Anyway I just wrote a HUGE letter to Michael, to pass along to Lars... that's enough... Mithril team under or not under Lars are not focusing on mithril "boosts in sales/promotions" I gave to Michael (to pass to Lars) a detailed list on HOW MUCH I DO invest myself on this site (both in time, coding, and also financially...) that Mithril does NOT do to promote their own products so I did not ask, I required a discussion with Lars Edman...
I agree with you Barliman, things have either to be done (to change things) ... or said (about the fact they don't want to do anything, clearly) so that at least we know what we can expect in the future...
it is not logical that as a "unofficial" mithril supporter site, Mithril Faerylands generates more traffic than the official channels of communication...
I somehow asked to be in a "consulting team" about Mithril matters, on a benevolent basis but with the ability to speak honestly and frankly with Prince August chairman about his plans (short or long terms)
"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)
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#4488 Fri, Oct8 2010 1:28pm
- Barliman
- The famous Innkeeper
- From: Bree
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 4331
Re: The Taproom
Sounds like they need to invest in some new software too.
"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."
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#4489 Fri, Oct8 2010 1:28pm
- regalrick
- Collector
- Registered: Thu, Feb7 2008
- Posts: 72
Re: The Taproom
I placed my order on Oct.7th and I am very thankful to purchase these wonderful mithril miniatures at a lower cost.
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#4490 Fri, Oct8 2010 1:38pm
- Gildor Inglorion
- Wandering Elf
- From: Montpellier, France
- Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
- Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom
well I don't know if "one software" can change everything if you don't use it , it is the coding of their website they need to change...
"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)
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#4491 Fri, Oct8 2010 1:46pm
- Barliman
- The famous Innkeeper
- From: Bree
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
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Re: The Taproom
Whatever.
"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."
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#4492 Fri, Oct8 2010 2:46pm
- hsf62
- Master Caster
- From: Australia
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 2930
Re: The Taproom
LOL Master Barliman, you speak out of my heart. There is more needed then new software. A whole new "PROGRAM"!
It seems to me, that Mithril is the write off for PA.....
It's not only how Mithril gets promoted (not), it is also, how customers are treated. The whole organisation seems to have open ends and not only on one end! The left hand doesn't really know what the right hand is doing!
Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time
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#4493 Fri, Oct8 2010 2:52pm
- hsf62
- Master Caster
- From: Australia
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 2930
Re: The Taproom
MITHRIL REST IN PEACE! 
Last edited by hsf62 (Fri, Oct8 2010 2:55pm)
Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time
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#4494 Fri, Oct8 2010 2:55pm
- Gildor Inglorion
- Wandering Elf
- From: Montpellier, France
- Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
- Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom
communication - as always - is the key....
it's always better to over-communicate than not communicate at all... Now if only I had some "marketing power" granted to me, I could do miracles to promote mithril to retailers, and sellers... but I am no official... and no professional would pay me any attention at the moment...
Besides, it is not my job... I already have a quite time consuming one, and a family to take care of...
Now , alas for master Ent, we know though that MX projects may definitly not be the proper "promotional boost" for Mithril...
Mithril has to use other "ways"... we all have ideas about which ones... certainly master Edman too.... but for strange reasons he won't develop them.... or too slowly
"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)
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#4495 Fri, Oct8 2010 3:00pm
- hsf62
- Master Caster
- From: Australia
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 2930
Re: The Taproom
This communication occurs to be very single sided Master Gildor.
Very sad indeed.
Last edited by hsf62 (Fri, Oct8 2010 3:03pm)
Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time
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#4496 Fri, Oct8 2010 5:55pm
- ddaines
- Skilled Artisan
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 1958
Re: The Taproom
Barliman wrote:
Huh? What's the point of doing this sort of promotion if you don't tell anyone about it? Has anyone received an email advsing them about the sale? I certainly haven't.
Mithril really couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery, could they.
Barli, I found this email in my in-box today from Prince August, not Mithril specifically.
This Sunday it will be the 10th of October 2010. That's 10-10-10. Adate that will never repeat in our lifetimes (unless you are from thetwilight saga). So Prince August has a special sale that will only last until the11th of October. We have 27.1% off EVERYTHING on all our websites. http://www.princeaugust.ie http://www.warzone-chronopia.com http://www.mithril.ie Thats right, We only ask that your order is at least 30 Euro. Thediscount is automatically applied in the shopping basket. Wondering why the sale is 27.1% off, its 10% off, then a further 10%off that total (9%) then 10% off that remaining total (8.1%).
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#4497 Fri, Oct8 2010 6:11pm
- Barliman
- The famous Innkeeper
- From: Bree
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 4331
Re: The Taproom
ddaines wrote:
Barli, I found this email in my in-box today from Prince August, not Mithril specifically.
Ah, but you obviously didn't look this morning, because the email only arrived very late this afternoon, and I'm sure that we'll all have rather belatedly received one by now.
"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."
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#4498 Fri, Oct8 2010 6:20pm
Re: The Taproom
Huoommm ... those links might settle the discussion a bit, Master Ddaines ... rhuoomm ... anyway, it doesn't touch me as I'm about to leave for a while ... huoomm ... just about to catch some rays of sunshine in the north this year ... huomm ... so enjoy the absence of me, talkative tree ... huooommmmmmrhuommm
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#4499 Fri, Oct8 2010 6:43pm
- Gavin
- Skilled Artisan
- From: Canada
- Registered: Wed, Jan30 2008
- Posts: 936
Re: The Taproom
Indeed, its best to assume that everyone who might know that Mithril is still active knows by now. The people who will likely stumble onto the site have already done so.
So clearly the job is to GET MORE PEOPLE TO STUMBLE ON MITHRIL'S SITE.
Having a twitter feed is passive - you need to know what to look for.
Having a website is still passive - you need to enter "mithril miniatures" or "middle earth miniatures" into a browser. How do you prompt someone to do that.
Having a facebook site is also passive - there are millions of facebook groups already out there. You need to find it, and you'd only do that by entering "mithril" into the facebook search engine.
At the very least, Mithril needs to appear on other websites - TMP and RPG.net are starts, not finishes. They need to form strategic partnerships with companies who have the infrastructure in the North American market (maybe sell some Prince August fantasy figures as a range on Dark Sword miniatures). They need to be going to every convention they can manage. And they need to remember that France and Germany are two huge geek markets - if you aren't selling there, you're losing out.
As it stands, most people believe Prince August, never mind Mithril, shut down fifteen years ago, maybe twenty. If they are aware of it at all, its deemed some sort of hobbyist recreation for the nostalgia market, not a going concern making new products.
Clearly people out there still want to buy figures. Many of them would like to buy beautifully rendered, expertly sculpted figures. If only they could be made aware of where they could find such things.
Gavin
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#4500 Fri, Oct8 2010 6:45pm
- ddaines
- Skilled Artisan
- Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
- Posts: 1958
Re: The Taproom
Theobald wrote:
Huoommm ... those links might settle the discussion a bit, Master Ddaines ... rhuoomm ... anyway, it doesn't touch me as I'm about to leave for a while ... huoomm ... just about to catch some rays of sunshine in the north this year ... huomm ... so enjoy the absence of me, talkative tree ... huooommmmmmrhuommm
Don't burn yer branches in the sun Master Tree and have a good break.
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