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#351 Wed, May14 2008 2:40pm

presto247365
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Re: The Taproom

While I'm in the neighborhood, I might as well stop in for a quick pint...I'm afraid I'll have to pay on my next time through however...roll

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#352 Wed, May14 2008 3:14pm

Barliman
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Re: The Taproom

This one's on me, because it's always nice to welcome back an old face - and the person behind it, of course!


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#353 Tue, May20 2008 4:42pm

jdbrown55
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Re: The Taproom

I just got an email about the next release and it has some pictures! big_smile
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These are so awesome and I can't wait to get them!big_smile


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#354 Tue, May20 2008 5:05pm

Theobald
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Re: The Taproom

Huuooommmm .... strange it is .... where did Master Jdbrown come across those pics ... hom ... yes, the riders are at full gallop as I stated somewhere else ... hom ... the one here is Prince Imrahil as he was designed within that range ... huoommm ... I wanted to have the MX-figure very close to that one so that it fits well .... hom ... you might have a look at the helmet and the shield ..... rhuoommm ... among one of the other riders you will clearly recognize one holding a banner ... homrhuooommm ... wonderful poses of the horses and dynamism of the figures, methinks .... huooommm ... though I did not know what the men on foot would be like .... hom

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#355 Tue, May20 2008 5:40pm

Theobald
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Re: The Taproom

Huoommmrhuoommm ... anyway ... a bowl of clear clean water, Master Barliman, please. ... hom ... that's what I thought of when I once considered about what to come this year ... when I then said that this year will be exceptional for tiny miniature releases .... huommm ... we so far saw the 'Corsairs' then we saw the light of some brilliant GF-releases, a new MX, not to forget the Christmas figure for 2007, then now the Swan-Knights are about to be released .... rhuoommm ... a good year indeed ... so far ... huooommm ... in case those d****d Easterlings would at least also see the light before winter solistice, this year could be regarded as one of the best of this metal-producing company .... rhuoommm ... cheers

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#356 Wed, May21 2008 2:12am

presto247365
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Re: The Taproom

Wow and WOW!!!  These have a totally new and unique look among the pantheon of Mithrils.  Chris is really in a zone right now!  Someday, we'll all look back on this as another "Golden Age" of Mithril collecting.  We'll find some rare oddity to add to our collection and say, "That's proper '08, that is!"

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#357 Wed, May21 2008 5:12am

Barliman
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Re: The Taproom

I imagine we've all seen Michael's new online newsletter by now (surely you got it too, Master Tree?). The illustrated horseman I'd already seen - indeed, I've seen pictures of two others, courtesy of The Man (in fact I saw them about six months ago, which is why I've been becoming impatient for their release, and puzzled by all the delays); but this is the first time I've seen the infantry 'men-at-arms' - and they're the ones on which Chris sought minor suggestions from me when he came to designing them, so I'm very pleased to see them at last, and to see that their 'look' matches my hopes!

As Presto says, The Man can certainly do no wrong at the moment - beyond threatening to tap out my financial reserves by producing more figures than I can sensibly afford. For instance, I already have a Dol Amroth force amongst my wargame collection (not GW, I should hasten to add), which I bought and painted long before Chris had ever intimated he might get round to his own range one day. But now I may very well have to replace them...

Rats.


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#358 Wed, May21 2008 5:13am

ESTEL
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Re: The Taproom

Theobald wrote:

Huuooommmm .... strange it is .... where did Master Jdbrown come across those pics ... hom ... yes, the riders are at full gallop as I stated somewhere else ... hom ... the one here is Prince Imrahil as he was designed within that range ... huoommm ... I wanted to have the MX-figure very close to that one so that it fits well .... hom ... you might have a look at the helmet and the shield ..... rhuoommm ... among one of the other riders you will clearly recognize one holding a banner ... homrhuooommm ... wonderful poses of the horses and dynamism of the figures, methinks .... huooommm ... though I did not know what the men on foot would be like .... hom

Dear Theobald, Master Ent,

didn't you got the new Mithril-newsletter or did I misunderstood your quote? In the new newsletter Michael has sent us some nice preview pics of those great figures. It would be hard not to have seen the pics yesterday wink as they are so inspiring and I think ALL fans should get the same info at the same time (it's democracy isn't it??).
Maybe that's the reason (newsletters do not arrive!) why no one comments the pirate painting contest -  the winners are announced!

Last edited by ESTEL (Wed, May21 2008 5:15am)


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A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
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#359 Wed, May21 2008 12:02pm

Theobald
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Re: The Taproom

Huoommmm .... sorry .... I always read the newsletter in a version where no pics and such things are opend, pure text so to say .... huoommm  .... I should reconsider that habit of mine.... hom.

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#360 Thu, May22 2008 5:22pm

jdbrown55
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Re: The Taproom

I really can't wait to get my hands on those figures! tongue
Don't worry Master Tree about looking at those newsletters, we are here to help you out when you need it!wink


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#361 Thu, May22 2008 9:44pm

Theobald
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Re: The Taproom

Huooommmm  .. thanks a lot for that, Master Jdbrownn55, indeed. ... I do appreciate your offer ...homrhuom ...

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#362 Sun, May25 2008 12:26pm

Theobald
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Re: The Taproom

Rhhooommmrhuoommmm ... hom ... it has become a bit quiet around here .... hoommm ... so I spend my time cleaning warg-skins and keeping them spiders away from the tab in the room ...

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#363 Sun, May25 2008 6:01pm

Barliman
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Re: The Taproom

Actually, the wargskin rugs are supposed to scare the spiders away. But as you say, it has gone a little quiet round here. Maybe I should instal a duke-box (like a juke-box, except that it plays madrigal music).

While you're about, Master Tree, have you heard any rumours lately regarding when the next batch of Mw347 Dwarves might appear on eBay? They're certainly slower in appearing than even the Mw347s were.


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#364 Sun, May25 2008 8:22pm

erchamion
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Re: The Taproom

Are there more dwarves in the series MW346 apart from the 3 that went on Ebay? I thought they were the only ones there ...roll


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#365 Sun, May25 2008 11:23pm

jdbrown55
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Re: The Taproom

Yes, their are more dwarves. They are the Warband that would have been released, but how many were actually made is the big question. I don't know how many we will see, but I imagine that some others will be sold in the future by Mr. Tubb.


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#366 Mon, May26 2008 5:41am

Barliman
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Re: The Taproom

From an email message I had from The Man a couple of years ago, I think there were approx 20 Dwarves in the Mw346 set - which probably means something along the lines of the command group we've already seen plus several variants (four, very likely) of each of several different warrior poses, as in the Mw347 set and the two earlier 'Warbands'. I also seem to recall (though my memory isn't all that it was...) that our resident Ent has been told that, unlike the Half-orcs, none of this set have gone missing during the intervening years.


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#367 Mon, May26 2008 3:57pm

Theobald
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Re: The Taproom

huooommmmm ... sorry, no news about those tiny dwarves .... ahem, I forgot to ask The Man ...
I think it's a good guess, Master Barliman, .... about twenty, I also think, though the Gondorians and orcs in the later armies were more ... huommm .... so, did I really say that, Master Barliman? ... rhuom ... I cannot recall having received and given any details about missing or non-missing dwarves of that army .... huommm ... but my memory might match yours by now.

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#368 Mon, May26 2008 4:04pm

Barliman
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Re: The Taproom

More probably it's my memory that's at fault. The only thing I don't seem to have difficulty remembering is who hasn't paid their tab.


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#369 Tue, May27 2008 8:49pm

erchamion
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Re: The Taproom

Fantastic! more dwarves! big_smile

I adore the dwarves, although it must be acknowledged that they are well represented in Mithril. In the series "Thorin & Dain" we have a good example of what we can expect from those who appear on the Mw346 smile


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#370 Wed, May28 2008 7:39am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: The Taproom

actually, among the races that are quite missing in the mithril range is.... "heavy armored" (that does not necessarily mean platemail but even chainmail) elves...
we have some of them of course, mainly personnalities.... but other elves, are mainly wood elves, or light armored elves. The only "wargeared" elves so far are those from the Warforge series (which is not mithril)


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#371 Wed, May28 2008 9:04am

Barliman
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Re: The Taproom

Yes, I've often thought it's a pity that the Lothlorien guards in their grey mail and white cloaks aren't represented in the Mithril range. I'm not so sure about 'heavily-armoured' elves, though. Is it ever intimated that they had any heavier sort of armour than mail? I know Chris has often given them plate armour, but I don't think this is actually supported by any of JRRT's writings - or is it? Please correct me if I'm wrong!


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#372 Wed, May28 2008 9:39am

erchamion
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Re: The Taproom

There is an essay about it on this by Mr. Joe Piela. Not if you know. Not only is a study of armor, also of weapons.

This is the link:

http://members.aol.com/gijchar/aame.htm


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#373 Wed, May28 2008 9:49am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: The Taproom

when i say "heavy armored" it can most assurely be chainmail.... But most of the elvenchainmails we see in mithril range are "light chain"... There is no need of plate, but chainmail with full chain arms, chain leggings, helms, and gloves (full armor) is very very rarly seen. Most elves have arms unprotected. I have always wondered why almost all elves have "bare arms", ok for wood elves, but there are not only wood elves

I doubt that elves during the Last Alliance, went to war in such a fashion... and the only "war gear" elves we have are in plate armor.... (which is open to debate), and mostly they are personnalities.

When it comes to the "host of valinor" which is outside Tolkien Enterprise Licence, no matter if it is plate or chain type or armor, but I am most certain it is a "heavy gear" covering all the body including arms, hands, and head.

Celebrimbor and Anatar in the last vignette have a good armor for this purpose, though there is indeed some pieces of plates at shoulders and knees.


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#374 Wed, May28 2008 10:42am

Barliman
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Re: The Taproom

The absence of armour on the arms would be explained in practical terms by the inconvenioence of the weight when shooting with a bow.

The only reference in JRRT that could be interpreted as indicating plate armour of any sort is that to the Haradrim use of 'overlapping brazen plates', but my own feeling is that he intended scale or, less probably, lamellar armour.


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#375 Wed, May28 2008 12:31pm

ESTEL
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Re: The Taproom

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

when i say "heavy armored" it can most assurely be chainmail.... But most of the elvenchainmails we see in mithril range are "light chain"... There is no need of plate, but chainmail with full chain arms, chain leggings, helms, and gloves (full armor) is very very rarly seen. Most elves have arms unprotected. I have always wondered why almost all elves have "bare arms", ok for wood elves, but there are not only wood elves

I doubt that elves during the Last Alliance, went to war in such a fashion... and the only "war gear" elves we have are in plate armor.... (which is open to debate), and mostly they are personnalities.

When it comes to the "host of valinor" which is outside Tolkien Enterprise Licence, no matter if it is plate or chain type or armor, but I am most certain it is a "heavy gear" covering all the body including arms, hands, and head.

Celebrimbor and Anatar in the last vignette have a good armor for this purpose, though there is indeed some pieces of plates at shoulders and knees.

nice thing to discuss.

being part of the re-enactment- scene (those freaks doing fighting with swords as part of medieval events) I know, that speed is mostly the key of success. Most close combats are no longe than some minutes as one blow is the final one, which kills or hurts so heavy, that your enemy cannot strike back (sorry, war is a bloody affair). I always thought, that elves must be quickly with their strikes, so that their armour is lighter not to hinder their "speedy" figthing abilities. Wearing mail armour is heavy enough, so that you cannot fight with it much longer than a very few 2 hours- mail seems much lighter to any fighter than plate, which makes you almost immovable. Plate was historically only common for cavalry units and in the latest Middle Ages as the gunpowder weapons became so popular, that mail wa almost useless (and the Royals and the nobility did not want to be killed or hurt heavily ).
As the 3rd Age of Middle Earth is one of secret warfare, where especially the Elves fight with bows and spears striking surprisingly from hidden places, heavy armour would be a "heavy weakness" instead of a protection.
In my mind the evil side is generally better equipped in the 3rd Age than the Free peoples as reflected in Sarumans troops.

Hope to have thrown in some new aspects.

NAMARIE
estel


"From the ashes a fire shall be woken, 
A light from the shadows shall spring;
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