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#26 Sun, Jul31 2011 12:04pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

The Wisest Of Ents said the truth . . . encore !
Well, Gildor, thank you that you like the conversion. I told here somewhere, that there exists a 360° overwiew of every figure I have painted
( Exept those I forgot to take photographs of . . . roll therefor you need to visit a COLLECTOR big_smile )

Here is the M 194 C - Easterling foot archer


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Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#27 Sun, Jul31 2011 12:09pm

Turambar
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

mmmmh . . . strange this is, isn´t it?

I think I prepare single pics.


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#28 Sun, Jul31 2011 12:17pm

hsf62
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

LOL, not bad if you have those huge magnifying glasses... lol lol


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#29 Sun, Jul31 2011 12:19pm

hsf62
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Awesome that guy!  wink


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#30 Sun, Jul31 2011 12:52pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

well Champagne is one type of wine isn't it wink and yes by amateur I meant "fan"


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#31 Sun, Jul31 2011 7:05pm

Thingol
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

.... high resolution picture... please... you know where smile


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#32 Sun, Jul31 2011 8:33pm

Milo
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Very much like some guy I saw visiting master ent no ?
Great, great, great ....big_smile


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#33 Mon, Aug1 2011 12:24am

Theobald
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Ents don't shoot at their guests ... they simply enjoy hosting them ... after they've layed down all their weapons at the front door ...

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#34 Mon, Aug1 2011 9:32am

Turambar
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

@ cameosis!
I just wanted to add:

b b b b b b b b b baby

lol lol lol


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#35 Tue, Aug2 2011 7:09am

cameosis
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Turambar wrote:

@ cameosis!
I just wanted to add:

b b b b b b b b b baby

lol lol lol

haha, right on!

@ theobald, it depends on who uses the expression—leica buffs use it in the same sense the french would use it. aficionado is another nice word for that.


Esse quam videri. (Marcus Tullius Cicero)

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#36 Sun, Aug7 2011 7:36am

Gavin
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Those are incredible pictures.

Regarding the Easterlings - not to contradict Master Tolwen - I would posit that while the great Easterling invasions that threatened Gondor during the Third Age are a Pecheneg like "wagon or chariot" culture, probably based just beyond the Sea of Rhun, there's plenty of room for a steppe horse nomad culture. It sort of fits thematically. If we take the Hervarar saga as a key inspiration (Eomer and Eowyn, for example) then a Hun-like confederation of familiar enemies located in the lands east of Rhovanion. We could identify them as the Sagath in MERP terms.

And those guys make perfect Sagath!

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#37 Wed, Aug17 2011 7:43pm

Turambar
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

You can make your own Easterlings and call them Sagath, or whatever you want Gavin.
Absolutely no problem.

I call my conversions Easterlings, simply because I want to have Easterlings. So I have to take that material mithril offers me.

so here is my third EASTERLING. In this case: Easterling archer, mounted.

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People will recognize the same horse as taken for the Easterling captain.

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#38 Wed, Aug17 2011 7:55pm

Thingol
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

I'm bewitched.... 100%.... awesome !


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#39 Wed, Aug17 2011 8:04pm

Gavin
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

So...that's a Glorfindel type horse, a Haradrim chieftain and a Variag head?

Hmm!

I like.

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#40 Wed, Aug17 2011 8:36pm

ddaines
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Ah, the miniatures that Mithril could release if they took inspiration from these photos wink

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#41 Wed, Aug17 2011 9:09pm

Milo
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

pfiou...can't we have any ?


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#42 Thu, Aug18 2011 5:47am

Gavin
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

It just occurred to me that the Battle of Mirkwood era Woodmen M figures have heads rather similar to the Varyag heads.

Interesting...very interesting. I foresee potential.

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#43 Thu, Aug18 2011 7:15am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

but variags are from the south... they are not easterlings...


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#44 Thu, Aug18 2011 2:21pm

Arthadan
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

They're from Khand, in the Southeast.


To mortal fields say farewell,
Middle-earth forsaking!
In Elvenhome a clear bell
in the high tower is shaking.

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#45 Thu, Aug18 2011 2:37pm

Gavin
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Yep, South-Easterlings!

:p

The MERP background also links them to a wider cultural grouping (Talathrim, I think it is) whose homelands are the plains east of Mordor. So a Mithril visualisation with a lot of "Easterling" elements makes sense.

Now, me, I'm convinced the Variags are actually Northmen, a Middle-earth version of the Rus. The real world Varyags were vikings living in what's now Western Russia and the Ukraine. (They were called the Rus and they gave their name to Russia) They rather rapidly intermarried with the locals Slavic population, but retained Vikingish ways. In later years, they formed the Emperor of Byzantium's personal guard, the Varangian Guard. They may have been hairy barbarians, but they were nowhere near as treacherous as the local Byzantine politicos. (Later, later their numbers were replaced by English huscarls and so forth, but the name sort of stuck). In one scene in the book, we see Faramir talking of Easterlings, "bearded with great axes." The later Varangians were blokes with beards and great axes. Hence...very tenuously, Variags.

I also add to this by saying they are called the Varyags OF Khand, which either means they are the Varyags from Khand, but it also means the varyags who are in Khand, that there might be Varyags of Rhun and Varyags of the Northern Horse plains or the Varyags of the Shire.* Khand itself merely means "great kingdom" or empire. So its possible that the Varyags are just an important and notable ethnic group in a bigger, more multi-cultural empire.

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#46 Thu, Aug18 2011 8:37pm

Turambar
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From: Germany
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

So the Easterling captain´s horse belongs now to the archer.
So the captain needs a new horse. It took me quiet a very long time, but with a little help from a very dear friend
the solution was there:

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So there was a bit work concerning the saddle ( there is none . . .) and I come to the conclusion, that the orcish shield of the M308 b
is the perfect shield for Easterlings . . . don´t you think?! In the ent I am unsure . . .


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#47 Thu, Aug18 2011 8:58pm

Thingol
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

All true... great short history lesson Master Gavin... did you know that Variags (Russian and Ukrainian vikings) were also in my area. With their small and narrow fast 12 +1 man crew ships they came downstream through Oder, Danube, Vistula, Drava & Sava till Croatia and Bosnia in 10th century. It is also possible to find tombstones with runes today in Bosnia.

Also it is interesting that part of the genetic code is the same as the Scandinavians and this is I*+I1a+I1b*+I1c and it is possible to find it in Croatia (hinterland) 37,0% in Bosnia ( today muslim majority ) 53,65% and in Croatian part of the Hercegovina 70,91%....

Croatian prince Zvonimir made a war alliance with the Vikings / Normans against the Byzantine Empire and against Venice (with Norman duke Robert Guiscard in 1082 ) and they fought together almost 3 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Guiscard

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_ … of_Croatia

Those vikings / eastern Variags were great adventurers, travelers, conquerors, traders and warriors.... smile

I like history.... and Master Turambar's Variags / Easterlings wink

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.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#48 Thu, Aug18 2011 8:59pm

Thingol
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From: Republic of Croatia
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

What a beautiful new figure dear friend... I will open my e-mail soon and I expect... you know what !  smile smile smile


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#49 Fri, Aug19 2011 1:49pm

shadyt
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

Wow! Wonderful Easterling Captain! I love the color of the horse and the look of the armor.

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#50 Fri, Aug19 2011 9:03pm

Milo
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Re: E A S T E R L I N G S

This easterling set becomes a jewellery ! cool


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