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#1901 Thu, Jul5 2012 8:20am

erchamion
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From: Granada, Spain
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Barli went quickly to the taproom, before I could answer .......Here you are!
You said:

"However, it's only a few months since the latest Ent, and he was the "right" size, so Mithril's policy is a little inconsistent on that score - and it doesn't explain why we're suddenly getting so many large vignette MS releases. One Huorn surely involved a lot less metal than a vignette and could therefore have been the same height as his forebears?"

Is it consistent to link the final price only to the weight of the figure? Although it would make sense that the answer is yes, the fact is that Mithril set prices without regard to this (compare MS 569-570, 568-572, 574-578).
why there are more expensive large vignettes lately? Perhaps The Man is bored to see "limited" his creativity and try to create scenes as he can. This would also explain future emissions Phaeton ......
or perhaps, simply, they make more money with expensive vignettes ...... (remember that making money is always the ultimate goal) roll

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#1902 Thu, Jul5 2012 8:30am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

In fact the vignettes are surprisingly inexpensive compared to "large" single figures. That's why I don't understand why the Huorn had to be any smaller than the Ent relased only a few months ago. And I think Master Gildor's link of weight of metal to price has a lot to do with the equation - which makes the discrepancy between the Huorn and Ent even more inexplicable.

Perhaps Chris simply ran out of modelling putty when he was making the master for the Huorn!

But I think you're right re The Man's motives for doing large vignettes - it must get boring doing single figures all the time when you're as talented as Chris is.


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#1903 Thu, Jul5 2012 3:39pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

you must add the "mould building" and casting involved in making big pieces too not only the price in metal.

Still I agree with Barliman, I don't see why the huorn would be so small...

Did you weigh the figurine, as opposed the the ent ? (considering the ent is something like a vignette too, I dont remember but I don't think the ent was the price a of a "single" fig, as opposed to the huorn?


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#1904 Thu, Jul5 2012 4:42pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Huoommmm ... why do that? ... rhuom ... er ... if you really want to, it's better to compare with the "trumpeting Ent", as he is not lifting some nasty half-orc ... ûuoomm ...

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#1905 Thu, Jul5 2012 6:18pm

Thingol
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

As I said a few days ago....it is not a problem in the quantity of metal - this was Huron's child..... cool


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#1906 Thu, Jul5 2012 8:02pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Presumably he's having a tantrum, and has just thrown the half-orc out of his pram.


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#1907 Thu, Jul5 2012 8:07pm

Milo
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

I put Huorn with his mithril friends in my Glass cabinet last week-end, he is very small indeed. But some real trees are much smaller than others don't they ?
Anyway, to my point of view, no matter the size, I always love having new Ents joining my hill.

Please Master Barliman, serve a round to people who come here tonight. No specific reason, just my pleasure to share good time and friendship here.

kshink...I know this sounds ever more friendly to your ears ! big_smile

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#1908 Thu, Jul5 2012 9:42pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Yes indeedy. That was music to my old lugs (sorry, Bree dialect again).

Very hot and humid here tonight, so I think it's time for ice-cold Bud or Cors. Apparently we're going to have a month's rain in the next two days. Mind you, they didn't say which month's rain. If it's June's rain we're in big trouble (here in Bree it was the wettest June on record).


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#1909 Thu, Jul5 2012 11:01pm

Turambar
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From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Sorry- this discussion is breaking my nerves meanwhiling.
Why don´t you say that this Huorn is a misunderstanding! And for sure- he is!
Clearly- AN ENT is surely something different in our imagination. I say OUR, because I suppose I am not the only one . . .
Make your mind up what an ENT suppose to be . . . 

A scrumpy please, MAster B, with extra rat-tail!

Last edited by Turambar (Thu, Jul5 2012 11:02pm)


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#1910 Fri, Jul6 2012 6:44am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

You're right, of course, Master Archer - everyone sees Ents/Huorns differently in their minds, but whatever way you look at it the new Huorn is inarguably SMALL - you only have to stand him alongside the old Huorn - or even a Mithril human - to see that he is. The only reason that Ents Entered the discussion is because we're told by JRRT that Huorns are trees getting Entish, or Ents getting treeish, which one can only interpret to mean that they're much the same size as Ents and/or trees. Here in Bree, a "tree" that's only about eight feet tall is no more than a shrub with ambitions.


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#1911 Fri, Jul6 2012 8:18pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

grrrrûoommmhuomm   huomm .. rhom ... kloppedi-di- klopp ? ...       [       ] ... rhuomm ...  <--- !! & ? ...
er, just for a thought ... rhuoommm ... Master Barliman, may I have a bowl of clear-clean-honey-coloured-not-rat-tailed-and-semi-liquid-pure-watery thing, please ... rhuoomm ... if you know what I mean ... huommm ... yes a bowl, I said ... rhuoom ...
I dislike this discussion about Ents and Huorns very much by now ... rhuuoomm ... as I feel fine with it .... rhuoomm ... no sense? ... rhuoommm ... ? ... got it right then .... huooommmm ...

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#1912 Fri, Jul6 2012 8:31pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Got it right indeed. One bowl of something you think is water coming right up.


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#1913 Fri, Jul6 2012 9:09pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Huoomm ... now that's the best barkeep in Bree .... rhuomm ... he even is able to understand trees ... hûûûûûômmm  ... ah, thank you for that bowl ....

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#1914 Sun, Jul8 2012 9:53pm

Mornedhel
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From: Luxembourg province, Belgium
Registered: Fri, Nov21 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Good evening Mr Barliman is your inn open on sunday night? If so an hydromel glass for me, if you don't mind


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#1915 Sun, Jul8 2012 9:57pm

ddaines
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Not sure if he is around Master Mornedhel, but I know where he keeps the key to the cellar wink

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#1916 Sun, Jul8 2012 9:58pm

Mornedhel
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Fantastic, let's move on to the famous Mr Barliman's cellar...


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#1917 Wed, Jul11 2012 11:46am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

On another matter, is it just me, or has anyone else found they can't get into the GF area of Mithril's website? I tried to gain access last night to make a figure suggestion and found that the current password (or at least, what I assume is still the current password (to do with a particular time of year and a large creature) and couldn't get in. Any suggestions? I've sent an email to Michael but haven't yet received a response.


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#1918 Wed, Jul11 2012 2:13pm

Turambar
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From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Well, all I can say is, that the smaug related password is OLD !
Can´t remeber the current one - unfortunately- and has already deleate the mail it was mentioned in.
I am getting older- you know . . .


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The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1919 Wed, Jul11 2012 2:25pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Aha, just found the old email with the new password - fortunately my trash can hasn't been emptied lately.


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#1920 Wed, Jul11 2012 3:30pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Huooommm ... seems you found it a bit late, that password-thing, Master Barliman ... huomm ... next time you better hurry when you're about to make a "new" suggestion ... huomm ...

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#1921 Wed, Jul11 2012 3:49pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

It wasn't a new suggestion, but one I'd suggested before - and that rascal Master Milo had beat me to it anyway - clearly a fellow with good taste.


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#1922 Wed, Jul11 2012 5:49pm

Milo
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From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Let me return you this compliement Master Barliman. smile
About taste, What's up in menu here tonight ?


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#1923 Wed, Jul11 2012 5:53pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

The prices.


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#1924 Wed, Jul11 2012 7:09pm

Theobald
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From: the Osning in Germany
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

grrruûoommm ... Master Barliman, you might not have witnessed that in my last entry I put the word NEW in quotation marks to point out that the suggestions wasn't new at all .... huoommm ...
so, someone who has lost a password in his "lumber-room" and therefore isn't able to put his ideas first shouldn't call others "rascals", right? ... gruoohuûom ... er, no harm intended, Master Barliman ... hooommm ... just thought of giving you the advice to be more hasty next time ... hom ..
I will not judge upon Master Milo's taste or yours, Master Barliman, ... huomm ... not at all

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#1925 Wed, Jul11 2012 7:49pm

Barliman
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From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 2

Hang on, Master Tree, aren't you the one whose motto is "Don't be hasty"?? I've been taking lessons from you, and am trying to learn not to rush.


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