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Milo wrote:
Hi Master Cameosis, Brekafast ready ?
brunch for me (breakfast AND lunch). 
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huoommm ... maybe someone could help me with this ... rhuoomm ... I just saw that there's a figure called "Aranarth" (Dunelending chieftain) ... huommm ... number is MM450 LOTR MERP ... rhuoomm ... just a bit more than 5 Euros ... huomm ... I do not know anything about it ... hoooommmmrhuƻom ... sculpting definitely is Chris' work ... huom ... strange that is to me ... hoooommm ... but mind, I'm an old tree and might be a bit confused ... huom ...
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Barliman wrote:
Thank you for the very clear explanation, Master X - worth a pint any day. I've certainly seen shrinkage on Mithril figures in the past - I have two half-orcs I bought years ago of which one is like a starved or squeezed version of the other, which would seem to match Master Gildor's observations re the Bilbo + Arkenstone set.
Ah, this reminds me that there is another possbile reason for one figure to seem smaller than another. Shrinkage will normally make the figure smaller in all dimensions. A figure which appears squashed in one direction may have been cast with the mould under too much pressure, so that the cavity is compressed and hence the casting is thinner than intended.
And thanks for the pint!
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http://www.mithril.ie/PBSCProduct.asp?ItmID=11471410 you think on this one..... I do not know why is written M(ithril)M but I see all M ranges on mithril web site have now MM prefix ...
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For sure it is M450, part of MERP Middle Earth Characters (M443 - M452). You even have the related poster Master Ent.
All pictures for this are there: http://www.miniatures-workshop.com/lost … _-_M452%29
I wonder if you might need a clear bowl of .... ? 
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But why "MM" I wonder?
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Mithril Miniatures I guess. 
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Yes, but what I meant was what is the point of changing it at all?
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Barliman wrote:
But why "MM" I wonder?
I'm not familiar with the current ranges but assuming the knowledgeable folk here would have spotted any such significance, I'd speculate it might be technical (a different alloy perhaps?) or to do with a change to the licensing?
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Barliman wrote:
Yes, but what I meant was what is the point of changing it at all?
M-ake M-oney (M-ore and M-ore)
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. . . so our dear Master Elf have to change the database . . . 
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It might be only a database issue (prefix for miniatures reference requesting 2 characters...).
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Please, put on table a pint (or two.. .Well in fact anything he can drink!!!) of ale for Master Milo.... Thanks to his nice job, I was able to get PM1 at last. Without his amazing help I could NEVER, ABSOLUTELY NEVER finished my Mithril Collection (well and with the help of somebody nice guys around here, I don't forget you).
Yves, you're a great guy and an example of friendship and generosity for every Mithril Collector. You're the best, man
Nowadays, the only mini I'm really looking for in this moment is the unfaithfull MS532 (I still waiting to get my order someday....) and the so-long-delayed Phaeton Vignettes. I've bought The Arkenstone vignette, but now I'm over with Mithril range for a while. If fact, I haven't bought the last MS minis and they will be "on waiting line" for one year or so. You know, fiancee pressure is getting bigger about our home free space (and money!) with the home improvement works
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This doesn't mean that I get out of Mithril, of course. It's not a farewell, I cannot simply go away from all of you after this fantastic last years. I can't believe how many Mithril fans are still around after all this years, when I start collected in early nineties, and how all of you keep the flame burning. So I will keep in touch with this forum and Mithril forum, and after Stella (my fiancee) and I get more stablished in our home, I hope I could get back to collect, and paint minis
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Best Regards,
Imisel / Chema
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Never fear, Master Imisel, your bar tab will be waiting for you when you return. But all the best to you in the meantime.
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Hi Master Caster it is nice to se you... please drink one drink with me in this dusty inn... full of happy and lucky passers and mithril collectors... cheers !
It is always nice to read such beautiful words of praise Master Imisel ! 
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Merci for the drink. A gallion will be enough for me today. 
I'm glad I could help. In fact, it's something I really enjoy more and more.
Cheers Chema! 
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Hi Master Milo... I should send you pictures of conversion the M61
................ cheers... !
Is it possible to eat third breakfast Master innkeeper... if it is.. one for me and another one for my hobbit friend from France.... please !
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I'm curious to see what came out from your imagination Master Thingol.
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Cheers Master Thingol! Always relaxing to have a drink nwith you. 

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From the number of times you've popped in lately, Master Holger, should I assume you've been banned from your local?
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xenophile wrote:
Barliman wrote:
Thank you for the very clear explanation, Master X - worth a pint any day. I've certainly seen shrinkage on Mithril figures in the past - I have two half-orcs I bought years ago of which one is like a starved or squeezed version of the other, which would seem to match Master Gildor's observations re the Bilbo + Arkenstone set.
Ah, this reminds me that there is another possbile reason for one figure to seem smaller than another. Shrinkage will normally make the figure smaller in all dimensions. A figure which appears squashed in one direction may have been cast with the mould under too much pressure, so that the cavity is compressed and hence the casting is thinner than intended.
And thanks for the pint!
Back on this matter, as I received information from Chris. he is very worried and upset as the figurines he sculpted match perfectly the "original" versions of Thranduil, Bard, Bilbo, captain of Aradhrynd. I sent hims pics of comparison, I hope the quality will be high enough for him to see the difference...but it is hard to see it in pics, you "feel" it when you have the figurines in your hands.
his explanation would be :
I can only speculate at this stage that, from the information that you have given me about the look of the metal , that they are using a different metal. If this has a higher melting point ( which from the fact that you say the detail is good seems to be the case) then the mould would be spun under a higher pressure. So the figures would be thinner because of this and the overall shrinkage would also be greater as the figure would have to cool off through a greater temperature range.
[...]"I assume that the overall height of the figures is correct. If this is so then my theory of the hotter metal is probably right, as the general overall cooling shrinkage is compensated for in the plane of the figure ( i.e. its height )by the flattening effect of the extra pressure[...]i can also tell you that they do not use the same metal that I use for Phaeton. The shrinkage in my metal is ZERO.
I won't copy here his "not very kind words" about what the factory has done, but if his theory proves correct he will be VERY upset... he intends to call the factory and discuss those matters first time on monday...
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