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#651 Tue, Dec31 2013 3:00pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

mmhh with the beard scalp we did not see him indeed, not in the "theater" version at least.
but if you consider the metal plates on the head, and remove some lighting, it looks a bit like the Bolg of the movie...


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#652 Tue, Dec31 2013 5:03pm

Thingol
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Maybe they put into the movie one ugly "Glob" instead of Bolg....  this is the "Golden dwarf" syndrome roll hm... in the running crowd, maybe we do not rightly noticed him.... hm... (again)


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#653 Sat, Jan4 2014 3:41pm

jdbrown55
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

He is in the movie, but he doesn't look like this. He is the one that Azog sends after the dwarves.

As for the movie, it was entertaining. Too much action for my taste, but it was fun to watch.


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#654 Sun, Jan5 2014 12:47am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

some of the best critics I heard about the movie (and I admit they are right) is that the Dragon, Smaug, is very well done and rendered.
The motion capture of Benedict Cumberbach in the role of Smaug could not have been better. really a great dragon, see this link http://screencrush.com/benedict-cumberb … n-capture/


(as a side note, I saw leak pictures of an Annatar image of Sauron... ( http://lilywight.com/2012/11/21/benedic … is-sauron/) maybe in the third movie or extended version of second?  that would be odd to have Annatar in... the Hobbit!


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#655 Sun, Jan5 2014 8:28am

Barliman
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Which of these images was "leaked"? I'm only relying on my memory, but they look like the Annatar images from the LOTR DVD extras.


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#656 Sun, Jan5 2014 5:59pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

ah? well maybe I had not seen the Annatar in the dvd extras then, highly possible smile


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#657 Thu, Jan9 2014 2:41pm

Turambar
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

ok then, I have seen the movie for the second time.

And there was a lot I havenĀ“t seen watching it the first time.

AND: I can tell you: you have exact three seconds!

Three seconds to left the cinema before Master Sheeran starts to sing . . .  Very diffucult indeed- but not impossible!!!!!


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The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#658 Thu, Jan9 2014 2:45pm

Barliman
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Must involve a sprint! I'm not sure I'm quick enough these days.


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#659 Thu, Jan9 2014 10:15pm

Thingol
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

I also saw today movie for a second time... and I agree with master archer... I looked at the film without much "The Hobbit euphoria" and looks much better to me. Many interesting details is possible to see... conversation between characters formed me better story for keeping whole movie in my memory... but I'm still shocked by the appearance of a golden dwarf....

About end credit song..... hm.... I've stuck in the center of the row and I did not managed to get away for 3 seconds....


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#660 Fri, Jan10 2014 12:19pm

Milo
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Above all, I do not like what has been done for Beorn (Character, meeting, Beorn's hall...) hmm

About the golden dwarf, I found it funny as an entertainment. After all, why not...


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#661 Tue, Jan14 2014 2:15pm

Turambar
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

. . . mmmmh, not quiet sure if those were mithril figures, Master P.J and Master Hannah are looking at . . .

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#662 Wed, Jan22 2014 4:29pm

Barliman
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Got round to seeing the movie a second time yesterday, and have to agree that it actually seemed better than the first time. Great fun! Outrageously silly in some places, but great fun nevertheless. I still especially like the semi-incarnate Necromancer's encounter with Gandalf. Very impressively visualised. But I have to agree with Master Milo regarding Beorn (I still think that the movie version looks more like Marvel Comics' Wolverine character....). More vulpine than ursine.


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#663 Wed, Apr9 2014 12:35pm

Turambar
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

After all, it is a very long time passing without any news at all concern part 3. (is there a part 3 anyhow ?)
Therefore we can enjoy watching, how WETA did the amazing Laketown. For me, absolutely overfantastic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkPRX_eiKv8

PS: and the proof, taht not only german people do speak like a emotionless robot . . .

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Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#664 Wed, Apr9 2014 12:46pm

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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

His accent sounds German to me. It's certainly not an English, Kiwi or US accent. Interesting little video short, though.

Yes, I've been wondering why we haven't seen or heard anything yet regarding movie 3, though I did come across a soundbite somewhere recently saying that the Battle of the Five Armies is going to be colossal.


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#665 Wed, Apr9 2014 1:51pm

Theobald
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Thank you, Master Turambar. Those shots really are fantastic.

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#666 Wed, Apr9 2014 5:01pm

ddaines
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

http://www.theonering.net/

This is usually a prime source of information as well as other Tolkien related information.

I think somewhere I read that there will be no (what's the word roll) 'catch up' filming - where they recall actors so I guess it is all systems go.

Watched the DVD this week (or 98% of it) - still can't get to grips with the GD, but I was wandering in and out of sleep by the time they got to Erebor, it was 1.45 am after all. So I guess another viewing will be required lol

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#667 Wed, Apr9 2014 5:05pm

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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Further to the link above there is an interview with Richard Armitage about the EE DVD (I haven't watched it yet) and it sounds from viewer comments as if Bombur and the stag scene will be included.....

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#668 Thu, Apr10 2014 2:36pm

Thingol
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

I hope this EE of Hobbit will be fine.... ( excluding "golden dwarf... )


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#669 Thu, Apr10 2014 3:39pm

Barliman
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

I wish it could exclude that ridiculous statue, but I doubt we shall be so lucky.


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#670 Thu, Apr24 2014 5:04pm

ddaines
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Well, confirmation of the revised title of film 3

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2014/04 … ve-armies/

Plus mention of an extra 25 minutes in DOS EEDVD

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#671 Sat, Apr26 2014 7:39pm

Thingol
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

.... he could also in director's cut, "cut off" the golden dwarf scene... and movie will be magnificent... wink


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#672 Sat, Apr26 2014 8:32pm

Barliman
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Agreed, but I think we have to accept we're stuck with it.


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#673 Sun, Jun1 2014 5:46pm

Gavin
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

I decided, in the end, that the Hobbit films are a filming of someone's Dungeons and Dragons campaign version of the Hobbit, complete with silly voices, weird side quests, peculiar stunt sequences which push the boundaries of the rules.

I appreciate the work done creating the world. I less appreciate the sheer amount of CGI. At this point, the movies are a spectrum from the groundbreaking, tight piece of cinematic storytelling (Fellowship of the Ring) to the somewhat flabby, over CGI'd Return of the King to the "theme park filmmaking" of the middle Hobbit film.

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#674 Mon, Jun2 2014 8:12am

Milo
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

Damned, you're right about D&D campaign ! sad


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#675 Mon, Jun2 2014 2:13pm

Gavin
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Re: THE HOBBIT MOVIE

I rather foolishly, in Christmas 2012, not having seen the first film yet, and celebrating my first exam results, purchased the GW "Escape from Goblin Town" set.

It arrived after Christmas. It arrived, after seeing the film. I found the Goblin Town sequence a bit weird, though I did enjoy Dame Edna's turn as a villainous oversized goblin-thing. But on opening the set when it arrived, suddenly a lot of thoughts coalesced. These goblin designs were horrible. Not "oh no, bad guy creatures horrible" but grotesque and cartoonish in a way I didn't appreciate. The Goblin King's throne? It's an actual toilet. With a bucket of droppings beneath it. Granted I've now painted all the blasted things, having left them in their box for over a year. Still haven't touched the, uh, throne though. Buying the GW "Goblin Paint Set" made the job a lot easier.

It's interesting: Fellowship and to a lesser extent, the Two Towers are the gold standard for fantasy films. The Hobbit films took all that acquired technical genius and sort of...made something that's vaguely related to, but in no way as good as, the original. I'll gleefully re-watch Fellowship on a rainy afternoon. Well, a hypothetical rainy afternoon when there isn't a paper due. I wouldn't do the same for a Hobbit film.

But I digress. It's clear that Jackson can make these humane, grounded, even gitty - and yet sweeping, epic films like Fellowship. It's also clear he wants to make grotesque, comedic films replete with toilet humour and visual gags.

I was thinking, the other day, about the current craze for Nordic noir crime dramas, things like The Killing or the Bridge. They are hailed as ground breaking, though in reality they are slightly slicker takes on British crime dramas such as Morse or Prime Suspect. I think there's a visual and cultural vocabulary that artists in Northern Europe/British Isles have. We see that again in, especially, the "North" sequences in Game of Thrones. It's thus interesting to me how the Mithril range partakes of some of that vocabulary to render Middle-earth.

And how far from that vocabulary the Hobbit movies are.

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