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#701 Sun, Nov30 2014 5:24pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

All contributions welcome. It's been cold, misty and moisty here in Bree for the best part of two weeks. The garden is so damp that i'm thinking of putting out duckboards, otherwise I shall sink in the mud if I go to use the outdoor privy. I might use Nob as a depth gauge - if he sinks out of sight, then I'll know the mud is too deep for me.


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#702 Sun, Nov30 2014 7:06pm

Milo
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Strange, 1st day with good rain for past 3 monthes near my hobbit hole...Climate is getting evil.yikes


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#703 Tue, Dec2 2014 9:06pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Huooommmm .... as nothing else is going on here I'd like to break one of my own rules ... huomm ... that is: never judge upon a figure before you hold it in yours hands .... rhôommm .... a moment ago I found this ... hom ...

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huoooooommmm ... I like that lad from the first glance ... hom .... great sangarunya-figure, isn't it?

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#704 Tue, Dec2 2014 10:22pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I have seen Sangarunya some time ago while it was still being sculpted , now that he is released I can see the details have improved.

the pose for this figurine is not a new one, BUT I must admit that the garb and carving details on his costume are very impressing and welcome. This character is from MERP universe, and he is depicted the same way he is described in the modules as well as with Angus McBride illustrations....

Personnaly I like it.... Indeed it is not a canon character... but it is a MERP official character which is "respectfully" rendered.


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#705 Tue, Dec2 2014 10:50pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Huommm ... so it's a "canon-MERP-(also based on some of Angus McBride's illustrations) figure" ... huoomm ... so, as for Mithril-releases mind please, dear Master Gildor, that quite many of the "old-below-100-Mithril-figures" were based on MERP-ideas as you know ... huommm ... and many people still think that they're fine figures ... rhûommm ... as for me I better prefer such MERP-ones (at least based on Mithril-production) providing new figures than having all them Gandalfs, Frodos, Sams, Aragorns, Witch-Kings, etc in weird, but different poses .... gruôm ...
I guess you know what I mean .... huoommm ...

anyway, a bowl of that drinky-honey-coulored-non-rat-tailed-clear-clean-watery-liquid, please, Master Barliman ... huom

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#706 Tue, Dec2 2014 11:27pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

indeed indeed, and I fully agree too!!


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#707 Wed, Dec3 2014 3:46am

Arthadan
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Gildor Inglorion wrote:

Personnaly I like it.... Indeed it is not a canon character... but it is a MERP official character which is "respectfully" rendered.

I'm afraid he's not. He was depicted in two MERP covers:

http://www.icewebring.com/ICE_Products/M1/images/8012.jpg

http://www.icewebring.com/ICE_Products/M1/images/3800.jpg

As you can see, he wears a chainmail in both of them and the reason for that was than metal plates were completely impractical for the desert.

Yes, I know. Creative freedom...


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#708 Wed, Dec3 2014 7:00am

Milo
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I do not see plates anywhere. I like details on front very much.cool


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#709 Wed, Dec3 2014 7:23am

Milo
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

By the way, it seems productions have truly restarted in Ireland. wink
Master Barliman ? Please offer breakfast to fellows here. My turn to use coiny things.

Kschink...


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#710 Wed, Dec3 2014 8:17am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Milo wrote:

I do not see plates anywhere. I like details on front very much.cool

The plate elements can be seen at shoulder and elbow.


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#711 Wed, Dec3 2014 11:07am

orc
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From: Mordor
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I'n my opinion the Angus Mcbride Desing is more nice ...but I like this miniature to much!! so finally the balance is positive to me....
As Mater Milo say...good news to know...in mithril company are working more hard doing more miniatures by month....these are great news!!! I hope we can see mor M series miniatures soon!!!big_smile


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#712 Wed, Dec3 2014 11:18am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

And I hope to see pigs fly too (an old Bree saying).


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#713 Wed, Dec3 2014 1:29pm

Tolwen
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Barliman wrote:

The plate elements can be seen at shoulder and elbow.

Then the most likely explanation is that the more advanced races always had plate armour in Mithril, and this is just to make sure there is compatibility with that...

It's always a case of what is deemed important.

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Thomas


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#714 Wed, Dec3 2014 3:40pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

numeroean descent , and high elven wear plate, that was the explanation provided by Mithril

this character is a black numenorean, thus a part of numenorean people, those wear plates, as well as Noldor.

non-dunadan/numenorean, or other elven races except Noldor, do not wear plate.

at least there is a logic behind it...


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#715 Wed, Dec3 2014 3:44pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Wrong though it is.


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#716 Wed, Dec3 2014 4:16pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

wrong for tolkien canon, but true to what they have always done....

I know it is an eternal debate, but let's take for examples illustrations from the Hildebrandt brothers, I find them really exagerated and too "light fantasy" for tolkien universe which is High Fantasy... but still they remain a piece of art


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#717 Wed, Dec3 2014 4:24pm

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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

... Again those irrelevant discussion .... guys ... figuree is great.... for me.... much more than old lady with chickens ... by the way is it here chicken some meat on the menu today Master Barliman ... cheers ...


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#718 Wed, Dec3 2014 4:26pm

Milo
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Barliman wrote:

Milo wrote:

I do not see plates anywhere. I like details on front very much.cool

The plate elements can be seen at shoulder and elbow.

Well, from what I see on picture, it seems only the elbow & arm are protected with plates.
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Look on red circles, mail coat seems to be the armour.
I suggest we have the miniature in hands before entering this "plate" debate again.

Last edited by Milo (Wed, Dec3 2014 4:27pm)


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#719 Wed, Dec3 2014 4:35pm

Thingol
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Well said, sir Milo hobbit friend ... please take one drink for you on my account ... hick


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#720 Wed, Dec3 2014 8:26pm

ddaines
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Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1958

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Interesting to see a 50% sale on 8th December (with exceptions) - latest newsletter details.

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#721 Wed, Dec3 2014 9:07pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Unfortunately it's the exceptions that I would have been interested in. But I'm sure there'll be another sale anon.


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#722 Wed, Dec3 2014 10:19pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Milo wrote:

Look on red circles, mail coat seems to be the armour.
I suggest we have the miniature in hands before entering this "plate" debate again.

Well, I think you need to eat more carrots to improve your eyesight, Master Milo - look at the plate pieces at the top of his left arm (top of arm also equals shoulder)! Mail protects the underside of his arm, but the outer surface defence is plate. If I'm wrong when the figure arrives I'll give you three free breakfasts - at the same time. And if you're wrong you'll have to pay for them.

We'll know for certain once the figure arrives.

And Master Gildor - I didn't say I didn't like the figure. In fact I like it very much indeed. I wouldn't buy it otherwise. I just steadfastly stick to my oft declared viewpoint that MERP / Angus McBride's misguided devotion to plate armour in Tolkien's "early medieval" world is plain wrong.


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#723 Thu, Dec4 2014 6:00am

Milo
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

It is true my eyes may play with my mind sometimes.lol
I accept the chance to eat 3 times for free or to pay 3 times for good food.
In case you are wrong, may I request also to hear a song from you?big_smile


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#724 Thu, Dec4 2014 8:12am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Certainly. But you'll need to place your ears at least eight yards apart. I have a very wide range.


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#725 Thu, Dec4 2014 9:07am

Turambar
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From: Germany
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Pay two- get three!!! I would like to pay for TWO chicken soups, Master Barliman and get THREE!!!! For cold-prevention . . .


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