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#1026 Wed, Apr15 2015 9:06am

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
From: Germany
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Arthadan wrote:

. . .  But I think they'd need to be more "tree-like" (meaning their bodies should resemble proportions of different kinds of tree) and Treebeard's feet had seven toes (yep, it's in the book).

Do you mean somethink like this . . . ?


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#1027 Wed, Apr15 2015 9:14am

Maenas
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Turambar wrote:

Arthadan wrote:

. . .  But I think they'd need to be more "tree-like" (meaning their bodies should resemble proportions of different kinds of tree) and Treebeard's feet had seven toes (yep, it's in the book).

Do you mean somethink like this . . . ?


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+1 to arthadan

Excellent modifications Turambar, great lichens and ivy additions!! I love mithril ents, but they are a bit "inorganic" and flat. When I paint them only thing I did is gave them different tones of brown to signify different species. Those differences could have come with the sculpt, I have seen now 15mm miniatures with more details. xD


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Mae govannen mellon nín.

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#1028 Wed, Apr15 2015 2:38pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Huoommmm ... you know that I like this excellent version of the "trumpeting Ent" very much, Master Turambar, especially as once I saw the figure in real ... huom ... no picture can show all the details and painting skills ... huom ... simply marvellous it is, and I don't say this only because I like Ents very much ... huom

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#1029 Wed, Apr15 2015 8:21pm

Thingol
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Mornedhel wrote:

Turambar wrote:

Mornedhel wrote:

By the way the Man do not answer any email for months :-/ is it the same for all of you?

This is the reason for me, not contacting The Man anymore at all . . .

It's very frustrating when you want to discuss a bit a won proposition. Last year I got answers within a week and now ... just nothing

I'm sure Chris have many reasons for this quiet time in his life... please guys you should know that he has his life with or without this small figures. Like we have. Even if he would not made any figure anymore he already maded many great moments in our lives with those LOTR miniatures. So.... He lives in this moment in his private moments right now and I'm sure that he's not happy with PA factory productions.. but in final he can not made decisions about this. I know that every christmas I receive gift for my little daughter from him, and he is very kind and generous person. I hope he is well and he will send us new figures soon.....

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.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#1030 Wed, Apr15 2015 8:22pm

Thingol
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

And about Master archer's Ent.... beautiful... like all his small dioramas... nothing more to say about it...


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#1031 Wed, Apr15 2015 8:25pm

Thingol
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Cheers with beer... to all.... if it is possible to order something... thanks in advance.... I have some coins to spent...please


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#1032 Wed, Apr15 2015 9:36pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huoomm ... thank you, Master Thingol, for those good words about contacting Master Tubb ... huom ... as I exactly feel the same about that matter ... rhûom ... thanks for the liquid anyway ... hom

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#1033 Thu, Apr16 2015 8:14am

Milo
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From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4454

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Thnaks for the drink Master Elf. Did you visit dwarves caves for having so many coiny things ?
By the way, I just notice MMP is lacking dawrf fellows...I wonder why ?

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#1034 Thu, Apr16 2015 8:20am

Barliman
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From: Bree
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

It's lacking dwarf fellows too.smile


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#1035 Fri, Apr17 2015 8:04am

Arthadan
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Master Archer, that Ent is a work of wonder!
I've saved the image to use it as inspiration when I get to work on mine. The small branches and the lichens make it come to live.

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To mortal fields say farewell,
Middle-earth forsaking!
In Elvenhome a clear bell
in the high tower is shaking.

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#1036 Fri, Apr17 2015 1:32pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

On another subject, it's nice to see Forlong in the latest Fellowhip newsletter. Looks to be a very nice figure indeed - just the way I'd imagined him.


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#1037 Fri, Apr17 2015 3:07pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huoommm ... I think the "old" mounted Forlong is a great figure, except the fact that he's too slim and his horse should better be more like a shire horse ... huom ... anyway, we'll see soon what the version on foot is like ... rhûm ... I always dislike those thumb-nail-sized-pictures by The Man as they always only give you an extremely rough idea about a figure ... huom ...

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#1038 Fri, Apr17 2015 3:49pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

True. And I agree re the mounted version, who appears to have been dieting vigorously. But I certainly like the pose of the new foot version. (Did we ever see the eventually abandoned MkI version of this fellow? If we did, I can't remember him.)


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#1039 Fri, Apr17 2015 5:59pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huooomm ... it's the first pic of this figure provided as far as I know and Master O'Brien provided a pic of the sculpted figure taken by The Man himself (you can tell right away because of the size and black and white "colour") ... gruôm ... I'm sure we'll never see any pics of an abandoned version, if there ever was one ... huom ... why should we? ... what for? ... rhuom ...

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#1040 Fri, Apr17 2015 6:42pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Michael explained somewhere in the last day or so that the first Forlong was rejected for some technical reason, and had to be redesigned. But I'm not sure where I saw it now...


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1041 Fri, Apr17 2015 7:30pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I can provide some more "unofficial" info about this Forlong....
Back in november 2014, if you remember well, we exchanged a lot on some aspects of Chris sculpture and some of you (Arthadan among them) quoted some links from other brands or other figures to illustrate what Mithril and Chris sculpts were lacking in terms of "art" and expression.
As I told you I synthetized and sent all those feedbacks to Chris who took them all in consideration and thus decide to RESCULPT entirely the character of Forlong to match most of the expectations and feedbacks that had been done by the MMP community members.

the result is the current version (as seen in the last GF newsletter)... So this is the result of a lot of our feedback. I have never seen the original version though, just this one, back in november while it was still a work in progress


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1042 Fri, Apr17 2015 9:22pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
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Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Oh yes!!!! I can remember well everything! And it was it worth. Absolutely. Resculpting the figure was exactly the absolute RIGHT decision!!!!!!
Synthezising was absolutely right! And well done in sending all those feedbackst to Mr. Tubb! It was worth doing that! Absolutely!
Therfore the waiting time was it worth also. I was waiting- just a moment- four month. And the result: A very unique figure . . . unique and single . . .
just like a Malt from the Highlands . . .

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Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1043 Fri, Apr17 2015 10:50pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

ahh well indeed the final result is definitly better , and there is more movement, emotions in it

well I'm glad all those feedback and insight was done and sent, that proves the Man listens to us and can do the right things

if there was still a doubt about it, that's really is a proof it is good that we gather feedback, ideas about how Chris should orient his work. I have his ear (well so far) and he is listening to critics positive or negative as far as they are constructive

I'm glad about the process  here...


now the collector man that I am would crave to get his hands on the "early version" of this Forlong, as it could be a prototype "collector" worthy of interest.... as you know I am a prototype hunter smile

I should ask the man if he kept a test cast just in case smile


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1044 Sat, Apr18 2015 7:46am

Milo
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From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Proto hunter is a good title for you Gildor wink

Thanks master turambar for having put both sculpts together. The improvement is obvious.
At the end, constructive criticism have been very usefull (I had doubt about it, I admit). I feel last releases have improved a lot, and still the man style is there. I thank you again master Gildor for your involvment.

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#1045 Sat, Apr18 2015 10:07am

ddaines
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Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Well I am certainly happy with the result, pretty much what I was hoping for and how I had pictured him.

Thanks for the explanation Gildor of why the original was abandoned - I was curious when it was mentioned in the text.

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#1046 Sat, Apr18 2015 10:11am

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Ahem . . . gentlemen, I am a little bit confused. On the other hand it shows exactly the point of "desaster" . . .

The second figure is of course NOT the prototype, it is simply M526 .

And I am certainly NOT happy with the result, because it is simply another repeat.
And exactly that was to be meant for hinder, wasn´t it?!

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Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1047 Sat, Apr18 2015 10:24am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I took the freedom to send a mail to Chris to tell us that this new Forlong was well received and that our work together with comments etc. paid well. I'm sure that he too will be happy about this smile

(NB : I used the occasion to ask for an update on the Phaeton range hehe)


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1048 Sat, Apr18 2015 11:04am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

well, it was fast, already got a reply ... though without any feeling concerning Forlong though some news concerning Zbrush smile it is going quite well though he lacks time at the moment to completly master it, the results are so far quite impressive and he likes it.


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1049 Sat, Apr18 2015 11:17pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

So- what is your information, Master Gildor? A BIG MYSTERY !!!!! Like always! I know something but I can not tell it . . . What should this be for?
So that means NO news concerning phaeton range at all. NO news concerning the "Necromancer´s Tower" range.
So that means that our effort- I mean "the poll"" was simply for the "ass", as we call in my region.
So- I will throw my diorama WITHOUT figures into rubbish and Mr. Tubb can do the same with his masters . . . I am NOT interesting anymore in those figures.

What is Zbrush??????

You are a man who like collecting prototypes, Master Gildor? I do so also. If I have the opportunity. Like everybody here, I suppose.
Oh- I asked Mr. Tubb concerning the prototype of "fallen Balrog". Do you remember that figure?????
I asked him about prototyoe of Sauron as well. A figure sculpted with a helmet like the Nazgul in LR-range.
I also made a realistic suggestion concerning releasing that NT range . . .
What do you think was his reaction?!
Well- maybe he doesn´t like me in person- therefore he could tell me: I don´t like you and will NOT answer to any mail of you . . .
But- what would be the reason for it? Was I rude to him in the past? Why should I? So- NO IDEA AT ALL !
I made the decision leaving everything concerning Mr. Tubb at all a long time ago.
If you receive a mail from him, Gildor? Be lucky! You seem to be the only one. Which is a mistake in my eyes.

I concentrate to other sculptors who are more friendly, more communicative and more polite.

Sorry for being harsh, but I am really fed up!!!
Good night!!

PS: and please- don´t send these words to Mr. Tubb without my permission, Master Gildor- as you did before! That would be kind!

Last edited by Turambar (Sat, Apr18 2015 11:19pm)


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1050 Sun, Apr19 2015 10:18am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I will not send any word master Turambar...

Still I'd like to know why you are this mad at me? I must say I'm quite astonished by your tone here. You have every right to feel the way you do but does it mean I am responsible for that??

Sorry if I can only share what I am told I can... my mistake then I should say NOTHING at all and not try to get information altogether (you will note that I provided information actually, but in Angrenost... not the pony, because it does not have to be public). I have no news concerning Phaeton range at all so I can't give any, it is not even a matter of disclosure just that I got nothing except what I already said.

Now what is the mistake ? the fact that I am lucky or the fact that I received a mail, thus saying I'm a liar? I don't know why Chris would answer me rather than other people, I think he also writes to others. But if he does usually it's to partake info or receive comments from the MMP community as for him, I am the mmp-middle man, being the manager/owner of MMP and of his Phaeton "vitrine"... I think it's only that.

Please take a seat and have a drink, it's on me... but you should calm down

(NB : Zbrush is the computer software used to design 3D models of figurines)


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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