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#1176 Sat, Jul11 2015 7:20am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Forlong was hewn down by axes, and since the only axe-armed bad guys mentioned in LOTR are "easterlings with axes" sent into action by Gothmog after the demise of the Witchking (the bearded men "of a new sort ... out of some savage land in the wide East") it cannot be doubted that these are the men who slew Forlong.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1177 Sat, Jul11 2015 12:03pm

Theobald
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From: the Osning in Germany
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Huoomm ... thank you very much Master Barliman ... very interesting and enlightening indeed ... hooOmm ...

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#1178 Thu, Jul16 2015 8:06pm

twrich
The Man in the Dark
From: Minneapolis, MN USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 752

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Well, it looks like Mithril is picking up production a bit. It sure would be nice to get the backlog down to only a few months!


"All that is gold does not glitter, not all those that wander are lost." (Strider, The Fellowship of the Ring)

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#1179 Thu, Jul16 2015 8:22pm

Barliman
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From: Bree
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

At least there is progress.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1180 Thu, Jul16 2015 10:32pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Well I must say I am quite upset about this eldacar / Castamir... I saw the pics almost one year ago and it was still in creation. I told him it would definitly gain emphasis with a "common" base instead of having them separate on "basic" base.... indeed there are those who make dioramas who will adapt, but Mithril has made such great vignettes in the past, it is a pity this one is not a vignette too sad


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1181 Fri, Jul17 2015 3:16pm

Gildor Inglorion
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From: Montpellier, France
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

well, I think it's time for some refreshment here, it's too hot in my head at the moment.... not only outside but with all the current events.

I don't know what people think about it around here at the Pony, but seeing this "Arwen Hunting" suggestion being in a good position to win makes me shiver and clearly disapoint me... I am more tolerant than many when it comes to Mihtril freedom with sculpting style) but I am not totally out of my mind when it comes to changing clear facts from the Books. It is simply impossible to even imagine Arwen doing anything martial..... PJ did a lot of evil with his Arwen character taking the place and role of Glorfindel... It would pain me a lot to see such "evilness" transpire into Mithril releases...


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1182 Fri, Jul17 2015 3:24pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

You know what my view of this travesty is, without me needing to state it again; but for the record, I agree with all that you say.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1183 Fri, Jul17 2015 3:53pm

Gildor Inglorion
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From: Montpellier, France
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

let's share a fresh drink then master Innkeeper, I think we both need it !


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1184 Fri, Jul17 2015 3:55pm

Barliman
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From: Bree
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Sounds like a good idea.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1185 Fri, Jul17 2015 4:53pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huoomm ... if I may join in, please? ... huom? ... indeed that idea of Arwen as a "martial"hunter clearly is a bit more than just weird ... hom ... I don't want to comment on that PJ-stuff concerning the last 3 movies any more ... rhuom ...
... it's hot outside, so cheers ... huom

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#1186 Sat, Jul18 2015 12:52pm

Thingol
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From: Republic of Croatia
Registered: Tue, Jul28 2009
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Hi guys I wasn't here for a while... so I'll pay one round for everyone who come today in the inn..... and about Arwen in hunting... :-/ weird indeed.....


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#1187 Sat, Jul18 2015 12:55pm

Thingol
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From: Republic of Croatia
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Milo wrote:

"5000 entish posts" is more than respectfull, it's a hobbit life ! lol

Happy to read you're back master Ent. And thanks for the drink. smile

Hooooum 5000 reasons to drink somenthing on my account today.... cheers Master Ent !


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#1188 Sat, Jul18 2015 5:41pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

well I definitly need some fresh drink again... I'm going crazy with all those accusations from Luthien4tinuvielle and quendil on official board,  I must say that someone grieves me.... not upset, not disapoint, not anger.... but grieves...

Maybe I am no more in phase with mithril "active" GF members, maybe it's me who got it all wrong. I know Thingol, Barliman, you agree with me, but months after months, years after years, we have seen a lot of new faces joining the Gold Fellowship. Most of those people are not MMP related in any way, and are not what I'd call a community, they are, well, they are the "new generation", and this generation may want something else , something new, something different out of mithril, which is not what we, from "the old school", want

i'm too old fashioned I suppose, time to give up.....

even MMP seems to die , stats are not good, and maybe it's also my fault here, lack of presence, or my behavior when I am present, make it so that people don't want to come back... I suppose I can understand them.... my bad mood can make me quite "pissy" at times...

I think I'll take a real break for some time... don't worry, the website won't come down smile well not until december renewal at least and certainly even after


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1189 Sat, Jul18 2015 6:19pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

It would be a huge shame if it did.

The lack of activity on both sites has more to do with Mithril's failure to generate new models and, therefore, enthusiasm. Things would probably pick up if there was real determination on Mithril's part to get some marketplace recognition. But how they can be motivated to do that is a mystery - we've all made suggestions, especially over the past few years, but none of them are ever taken up or acted upon.

It's not a "real break" you need, Master Elf - it's a real drink!


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1190 Sat, Jul18 2015 6:44pm

Gildor Inglorion
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From: Montpellier, France
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

thanks for your word (and drink wink ) master innkeeper,

well nevertheless... I'll take a real break . I'll be away from home next week, which means away from computer and internet... and I hope... I'll try to paint a bit (first time in a year I'll use a brush...)  but with my twins now totally on their legs running everywhere in the countryside, I fear I'll be too busy being after them to paint ...


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1191 Sat, Jul18 2015 8:04pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Ah, the joys of parenthood!


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1192 Sat, Jul18 2015 11:12pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huooommm ... taking a good break from time to time together with a real drink is what extends one's lifetime most ... HOM ...
that's why I'm still around here for some time ... huoommm ....
Master Gildor, I just can confirm what Master Barliman told you ... huoomm ... I hope you find the right point of a brush to use it again ... hom? ... anyway ...  cheers .... ??? .... hooomrhûom ... I shouldn't forget to thank Master Thingol for the free drinks yesterday ... huooom

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#1193 Sat, Jul18 2015 11:35pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
Posts: 2724

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I told that you need a real break, Master Gildor?
Well, I thought you already had . . .


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1194 Sun, Jul19 2015 10:36am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

well I was not yet on "holiday" master Archer, thus it was hard to make a real break, wasn't it.... now it's sure, I'll be away for some time I hope it will be for the best


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1195 Sun, Jul19 2015 9:42pm

ddaines
Skilled Artisan
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1958

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

A break is as good as a rest so they say wink. Recharge the batteries, forget about MM for a while and get painting (while they sleep if necessary) smile.

In the meantime I can now turn my attention to creating the accompanying scenes to Farewell to Bree.

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#1196 Mon, Jul20 2015 8:23am

Milo
The Attic Warden
From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4454

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I took some quiet time this morning to read both MMP & GF discussions.
Master Gildor, about MMP, you know I come here as often I could, being also very busy: No brush handling for 18 monthes now..

You also maybe right about old school fans & new fans, you may be not. In the end, it's life, and as several here wrote, sharing a drink & having good time is the good way it should cary on.

Master Thingol, thanks for the drink.

Cheers !


Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
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"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
J.R.R.Tolkien

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#1197 Wed, Jul22 2015 3:08pm

Maenas
Traveller
From: Barcelona, Catalonia
Registered: Thu, Mar6 2008
Posts: 572

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Haven't stepped in the GF forum since long, whatever happened take that necessarily rest Gildor.
It would really be a pity that this site would close after all these long lasting years. May the resting and some of the best pony drinks dilute those dark thinkings.
Cheers to all!


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Mae govannen mellon nín.

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#1198 Wed, Jul29 2015 11:09pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
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Posts: 5724
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Huoommm ... so by now it seems everybody here is taking a rest or some holiday at will ... rhuoom ... or is this silence just been caused by the lack and backlog of that tiny-metal-miniature-things we once used to discuss about here ... grûomm ... alright, that is to me ... huoomm ... I still need some time here to clean the rest of those old bar-tabs from their shards and scribbles on them, so they can be used again for new ... huomm ... cleaning the teeth and paws of the doormats, you know ... huom ... there still seems to be a lot to be done by that Company that might "keep its customers satisfied" meseems ... huom

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#1199 Thu, Jul30 2015 7:56am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

There is indeed. And there's no point you looking for the bar tabs - they're hidden somewhere safely out of the way.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1200 Thu, Jul30 2015 12:01pm

Gavin
Skilled Artisan
From: Canada
Registered: Wed, Jan30 2008
Posts: 936

Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Yeah, there are two challenges here.

One is Mithril/PA's weird passivity. Other minis companies go and do things like kickstarters, make alliances, get their name out. Mithril assumes it can coast. So participation will always be skewed. You're going to have dwindling numbers of keen participants and new infusions of overly enthusiastic sorts which will seem out of place.

The other one is that a lot more people have been exposed to Middle-earth through the films; way more than have ever read the books. Mithril itself is not even a "pure" range - it has its roots in RPGs, after all. There can be room for a  more D+D ish - or even Hobbit movie style - interpretation. (Actually the film is more Warhammer :p) Arwen hunting I could go either way on. I'd prefer it was totally-not-Luthien hunting. Luthien is Tolkien's action hero elf lady. Done right, she could even be proxied in as a certain invented female Elf character of Mirkwood.

To me the big Mithril strength is tone. Tolkien favoured this idea of willowy, otherworldly figures and Mithril catches that so well. There are weaknesses. The Man does like his gothic plate on occasion and his Hobbits are a bit too little. The range itself has never quite figured out what it was. The ambiguity gave it a great deal of scope, but its often frustrating to collect. "This diorama needs...oh hell" or "I need all the figures for this MERP module...oh hell" or "I could make a warband of Beornings but..."

Also, where's me bleedin' Easterlings!

Last edited by Gavin (Thu, Jul30 2015 12:06pm)

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