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#1751 Thu, Jun2 2016 5:36pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

you know what would make me happy master caster wink if you remember our emails from years ago ....

well, it was "great", to receive mithril newsletter today entitled : "Easterling shaman defeated Gildor Inglorion." 

This could not be more true smile


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1752 Thu, Jun2 2016 6:12pm

hsf62
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Do you mean the mail from august 2011 re MW? roll


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#1753 Sat, Jun4 2016 9:58am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

yes this one with all its content maybe we could discuss this in mp or mail?

Well about other things... I'd like to offer drinks all around for my patrons here... I made my suggestion for june month smile always the same, submitted already three times before "King Elessar leading the last charge at the black gate"... I don't want to bribe any of you but I really think it could be a great addition as such figurines are not common in the whole mithril range (be it Aragorn or any other leaders)
I invite you the read the description on the official board if you like it, please vote for it... Mounted months are so rare...

Having an Elessar in regal gear , like the M260 Theoden charging on horse would be unique... well M260 so far is unique too, as far as I remember


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1754 Sat, Jun4 2016 11:35am

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Huuômm ... hom ... ? ... er, M260 is a unique figure you said, Master Gildor ??? ... huom ... why? ... but I think that, concerning stability, it is one of the worst Mithril-figures ever ... rhûomm ...
thanks for the drink, Master Elf, ... huoommm ... besides, trees cannot be bribed, you know .... hommm

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#1755 Sat, Jun4 2016 12:02pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

well strangely, my m260 (without the sprue) never flinched in 20 years... I am always astonished at how stable this figurine was !

when I said unique I meant about the pose...


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1756 Sat, Jun4 2016 12:08pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

I would imagine that its weakness sans sprue was the very reason that Chris never used the pose again.


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#1757 Sat, Jun4 2016 12:28pm

Thingol
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

King Elesar will get my vote for June..... smile


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#1758 Sat, Jun4 2016 6:55pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

anyway there are many other poses that would fit .

Besides, it all depends the metal alloy in which it is cast smile lately their alloy is great (strong and light) and it could fit. Other brands have no problem with that.


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1759 Sat, Jun4 2016 7:45pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Huuom, rhômhuom .... isn't it pointless to discuss about matters which are not facts yet?  ... rhuoommm ... hasty people you are, meseems .... hommm !!! ... have you ever considered that I might suggest a non-canonical mounted tree ??? ... huom?
alas, I'm sure you know what I mean ... rhuom ... bowl's empty, Master Barliman, would you please ...

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#1760 Sat, Jun4 2016 7:52pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

a mounted tree , how exotic wink  the question is... what would his mount be ? wink


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1761 Sat, Jun4 2016 8:25pm

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Very robust, I'd imagine. Perhaps a horse-chestnut?


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#1762 Sat, Jun4 2016 10:20pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huomm ... ? ... why do you always try to take me that seriously .... rhûoomm ...

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#1763 Sun, Jun5 2016 7:54am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Quite the opposite. I never take you seriouslly at all!


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#1764 Sun, Jun5 2016 1:16pm

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huoommm ... that's nearly one of the best ways to cope with trees in a tavern .... rhûooommm ... er, I'd like to pay for the drinks for the customers being present today ... huoomm ... yes, I've got some of that coiny-things you're keen on left, Master Barliman ... huom ... they're for you ... hom ! ... why? ... just have a look at the number of my entries here on the left ... huomm and cheerioh-tidom-rhûom

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#1765 Sun, Jun5 2016 9:53pm

hsf62
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

The tree has spoken! wink


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#1766 Mon, Jun6 2016 1:50pm

Milo
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Rrrr, I am too late. Anyway, thanks for the expensive drink Master Barliman. smile
I will visit GF fourm to read everyone's suggestion. I like the Elessar idea very much, and still wonder what else could be created...

Last edited by Milo (Mon, Jun6 2016 1:51pm)


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#1767 Mon, Jun6 2016 1:52pm

Thingol
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

... I hope Master innkeeper will create on delicious meal for two of us Master hobbit... cheers... !


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

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#1768 Tue, Jun7 2016 7:15am

ddaines
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Barliman wrote:

Very robust, I'd imagine. Perhaps a horse-chestnut?

I know you don't like them, but.... lol lol

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#1769 Thu, Jun9 2016 12:17am

Theobald
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

huoommmmm .... in the ent I did not suggest that mounted tree, just not to scare you imagining that... rhûom ... that one, of course would have been slightly a bit non-canonical, as we all know ... huom ... so I didn't dare ... rhuóm ...
err, what about them dusty-trodden-unclean and flat furs just behind the threshold of the front door ... huom? ... I'll take them with me now as they're bit smelly and worn though some parts of them still sting ... hooommmgromrhuôm ...

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#1770 Mon, Jun27 2016 9:56pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

well master Barliman i'm in desperate need of something strong to drink... the vote for this month is killing me.

While some may consider it like suspense over two good ideas they like, I see it the same way as when I'm about to bid on an ebay priceless and unique figurine... Either winning or loosing and you don't know until the very end

I don't hide you I'd be clearly disapointed to see the wainrider win, mainly because I am clearly certain that it won't be rendered as a chariot but as a simple horseman like any other, which would make the result very "simple"...

If I had guarantees it would be rendered with a real chariot driver, rather than a mere easterling rider, I'd even vote for him and renounce my suggestion... but I am more than skeptical here, I simply don't believe it will be, because it would require a full vignette... it would not fit the quantity of parts and sculpting allowed for "mounted months"...

well..... three days to go....


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1771 Mon, Jun27 2016 10:50pm

Turambar
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

Do you really think, that the pose of a mounted Wainrider is more simple as the post of a hero sitting on a
horse (as we have 37 of them!) named Aragorn in this case ??????????
Are you that kind of desperate for winning your entry, Master Gildor??????

What is the problem with that Wainrider-suggestion?


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The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#1772 Tue, Jun28 2016 7:31am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

No need to shout, Master Archer!

One "problem" (if it is one) with the Wainridre figure is that JRRT describes the Wainriders as having "chieftains in chariots", so I can see Master Gildor's point. Either way, it's up to members what they'd like to see available in the range, and we're never all going to want the same thing.

I'm sure that a Wainrider will be suggested again if he loses!


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#1773 Tue, Jun28 2016 10:51am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

well I'll try to illustrate what I mean (not easy to find pics on the net)

wainriders (as the name indicates) are chariot riders, not horsemen, they don't ride on back of horse they "drive" horses from a chariot behind horse, like the Scythians or Hamaxobioi in Greece

this means it is not a horsmen that would depict a wainrider but a chariot driver (like in Ben Hur)

Some Variags also used chariots, inspired by their eastern neighbours 'wainriders', here is an illustration :

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/6/66/Variags_Art.png/revision/latest?cb=20120421055039


a wainrider that would be a simple horseman would be called........... An Easterling smile    Wainriders belong to the "easterling ethnic group", their particularity is in their culture , they "ride chariot", that's why they are called this way, not because of their geographical origin... "The Wainriders were a people, or confederacy, of Men from the East. They journeyed in great wagons, and their chieftains rode chariots in battle. They camped in fortified camps of wagons" (LOTR Appendix A)


Sculpting something like this would be GREAT, but it would require a vignette or a boxed set... it is not in the scale of a simple horseman. I deeply encourage our dear master Ent, if this suggestion win, to convince and be 'firm' in email exchanges with Chris that it HAS to be a chariot rider and not a horseman, no matter the increase in cost (I am willing to pay €60 for such a figure but I'd really be annoyed to have 'yet another simple anonymous oriental horseman' )


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1774 Tue, Jun28 2016 11:03am

Barliman
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

That's certainly what a Wainrider figure needs to be, but I hate to imagine what a Mithril Fellowship chariot set would cost!


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#1775 Tue, Jun28 2016 1:01pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: THE TAPROOM 3

oh well, with those new 3D printing technology i don't think it would cost that much actually (it could a single horse chariot with a single rider
Still it would be in the range of a vignette, 60-70€... but why not ? it's been seen in the past that "dual months" transformed into wonderful vignettes, see Beregond & Pippin against Olog-Hai, it's a good example...

and as i see that Aragorn is now taking the direction to loose.... I took the freedom to copy my earlier post on the official board as I really think people should be aware or vote knowingly, and also for Michael and Chris to consider the outcome of a winning wainrider...

It would not be the first time alas that we are disapointed about the final aspect of a great winning suggestion


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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