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#1876 Thu, Jun4 2009 3:26pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

I agree with George Ben and all the others too Jason smile

there is no necessity to buy, to be a collector and mithril fan smile You are there, you share your passion, you have your collection and painting times smile I too, soon -all too soon I fear- will have to make choices between Mithril and my family but that does not mean things cannot change in the future... besides , there will be promotional sales, there will be, one day, an end to this economic crisis... and also maybe Mithril will have found more customers and will lower their prices again so just focus on what is essential : family, and life, health etc. that's important.

As for Gold Fellowship, I remind that the "contract" mentionning  we have to buy 9 out of 12 figurines a year was suspended and we have no obligation at the moment as gf members... so that we can afford to make a pause if need be


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1877 Thu, Jun4 2009 4:00pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

I thought we were still obliged to buy six figures per annum? I certainly haven't heard otherwise.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1878 Thu, Jun4 2009 5:01pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

on this topic Barliman : http://mithrilfigures.proboards.com/ind … amp;page=1
I quote Michael :

3-19-2009 at 18:49, whikless wrote:Hi. Could I quickly ask about figure amounts. You know how you have to buy 6 a year. say you buy
3 double packs will that count? 

Michael Answer, on 3-20-2009 :
Due to being behind in releases we are currently not enforcing this part of the club policy. However the rules do not count duplicates.


Since nothing has been said since that date I consider this is still true: the rule still exists but is currently not enforced...


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1879 Thu, Jun4 2009 6:25pm

Barliman
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From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Fair enough. But I wish I'd noticed that - I could have saved myself a bit of money... I wonder why they've not actually broadcast that decision more widely?


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1880 Thu, Jun4 2009 8:15pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Huoommm ... no, Master Barliman, you will not have lost any money, methinks ... rhuoommm ... as you might also consider what you get for that ... ahem ... that round you promised is not on it's way to being received by some regulars, I'm afraid ... huomm ... as you seem to rather spend you coiny things on tiny metal pieces ... rhuoomhuomm ... anyway, I do understand well.

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#1881 Thu, Jun4 2009 10:53pm

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

Thanks everyone! It is good to hear from all of you. I feel good when I come to this site and despite my situation, it is a relief to forget all of the problems. When all of this price hike started I was like, "Oh great now I won't be able to get any minis at all!" I will definately get a mini when I can and I will be here still too. smile As a wargame person, I guess my battles will not be that intense with only a few guys, but that is ok. My Helm's Deep that I am making is coming along very nicely.(check out what I have done in My Work on this site) Thanks again all of you and Barli, please give me the largest drink you have!big_smile


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#1882 Fri, Jun5 2009 12:07am

hsf62
Master Caster
From: Australia
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 2930

Re: The Taproom

Hi Jason, your battles won't be small eighter!wink


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#1883 Fri, Jun5 2009 12:29pm

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

Ha! I forgot about that Master Caster! Thanks.lol


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#1884 Sun, Jun7 2009 5:49am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

It's suddenly gone very quiet in here...


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1885 Sun, Jun7 2009 2:29pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Indeed, Master Barliman .... huoommm ... did you raise the prices?

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#1886 Sun, Jun7 2009 3:50pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Ho, ho, very topical humour, Master Tree! No, I don't want to annoy MY customers, so no unjustifiable price hikes in this establishment.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1887 Sun, Jun7 2009 4:49pm

Theobald
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From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Huooommmm .... at least these are good news ... huomm ... I always knew you're an honourable man ... hom

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#1888 Sun, Jun7 2009 5:36pm

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

Barli I have been waiting for that large drink for quite awhile! Please, since you are not that busy, make that drink for me.big_smile


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#1889 Sun, Jun7 2009 6:11pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Do you want it with one of those little pink umbrellas, or without?


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1890 Mon, Jun8 2009 1:20am

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

Without, please. Do you have any pineapple slices?big_smile


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#1891 Mon, Jun8 2009 5:44am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

Pineapple chunks, lemon slices, bitters, worcester sauce - you name it, I've got it. But does any of it really improve the taste of my scrumpy, I ask you?


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1892 Mon, Jun8 2009 7:33am

hsf62
Master Caster
From: Australia
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 2930

Re: The Taproom

"But does any of it really improve the taste of my scrumpy, I ask you?"

You'd better not ask!tongue


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#1893 Mon, Jun8 2009 8:00am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

worcester?? like in worcestshire? by how on Arda did you manage to find such a component, not to say the name of this place wink


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1894 Mon, Jun8 2009 10:29pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

I just read once again the suggestions thread for june in the official board... and I wonder...

all those people who now suggest and criticize the boycott... once again, everybody's free to have his opinion... but I wonder if those discussion in this thread... had not been made, or made elsewhere.... or if the boycott in the suggestion topic had not been enforced at its beginning... would we have a price reduction from 9,99€ to 6,99€ .... would Mithril have cared at all about our disapointment?.... Assuming Lars does not even warn or listen to Chris Tubb himself, allow me to think that if NO threat had been made to something that could HURT mithril, at the cost of a sacrifice for us all (I mean the very existence of the GF here) well if no threat or strong message had been done in this very place, nothing would have been done... and the figurines would most certainly still be at 9,99€ ....  Now I wish I am wrong... and I am ready to make amend if I am indeed wrong...

I don't want to be upset by the community here.... but I feel like there are some people (not necessarily from the MMP community but mainly from the GF community) that are content that the GF still exists even if it means Mithril health is growing worse, I have the feeling (maybe this is paranoïa) that people are more interested in seeing a GF figurine being produced... at any cost....(until those same costs increase to twice its current price one day or another) and no matter if Mithril has financial problems and is forced to raise other prices...

Now I would like to ask solemnely here... to be sure :
What would you prefer :
having no Gold Fellowship and, instead, good advertising campaign and a new "youth" for Mithril?
have a "precious" Gold Fellowship, and no matter if Mithril is forced to financial decisions such as stopping regular releases, making collectors only products in only 100-200 batches at a price thrice the amount it is currently...(currently, that's what's happening : they have a fixed number of customers.... trustful ones... who love the gold fellowship figures a lot... maybe more than the regulars... so why bother making regulars? but with the dry loss of not having a retail market, collector market would necessarily have to be more expensive)

mmmmhh... hasty am I... am I not?  I should maybe take some rest at this late hour ... huooommmm  yes, a bit of a rest, in a grove near Fangorn... hummm.....


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#1895 Tue, Jun9 2009 12:07am

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

I would be for not having the Gold Fellowship and having good advertising. I really can't afford any of the fellowship figures anyway. Some suggestions I really don't care for either. hmm


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#1896 Tue, Jun9 2009 12:11am

Gavin
Skilled Artisan
From: Canada
Registered: Wed, Jan30 2008
Posts: 936

Re: The Taproom

I like the Gold Fellowship. I love some of the things we've gotten out of it. I could live without the Gold Fellowship, I suspect.

Still want my Elf Bard, Northman Healer and Shield-maiden damnit. Oh and Elladan and Elrohir in their ranger garb at the Black Gate. smile

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#1897 Tue, Jun9 2009 2:49am

presto247365
Adventurer
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 94

Re: The Taproom

Personally, I would sacrifice the Gold Fellowship if necessary to increase the overall health and viability of Mithril as a company. 

I think the Gold Fellowship is/was a fantastic idea.  I truly believe it led to the recharging of Chris's creative energies bringing us to not only the fantastic fellowship figures, but the superb M-series work as well. 

Alas, it is becoming cost-prohibitive for me.  Also, it seems that the ideas are trending further and further afield.  This is fine, as they are all voted on, but some ideas are truly less appealing than others. 

Thought:  What if the "Fellowship" reverted to it's more traditional form from the past.  I'm thinking we still vote on a figure, but it is only one :0 (yes, I said it!!) one figure a year, and that figure becomes the Fellowship special for the year.  Additionally, we could revive the Tengwar, albeit in online form with Fellowship member submissions.  That wouldn't put a large work-load increase on the front-office types at Mithril, and it would GREATLY reduce Chris's workload. 

I just don't see the economic viability of producing 100-150 figures that cost 30-50 Euro each and only sell 40-50% of the stock.  (Sales numbers are just guesses on my part)  That's a lot of money tied up in production that ends up as a sunk cost with figures sitting on the shelves in the warehouse.

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#1898 Tue, Jun9 2009 3:31am

jdbrown55
Marshal of the Mark
From: Texas
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 488

Re: The Taproom

I agree with your comment Presto!wink


These are indeed strange days, dreams and legends spring to life out of the grass! - Eomer

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#1899 Tue, Jun9 2009 5:36am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

I could certainly live without the GF on economic grounds, but whether or not anything equally worthwhile would be substituted in its place is a moot point. I've twice this year got to the point where I've seriously contemplated 'opting out' of buying any more GFs (some I don't like anyway, and others are too expensive for me, so purchasing my 'membership quota' has been difficult), but it is a way of getting specific figures into production that would probably never see the light of day otherwise.

Certainly if it came down to a choice I would prefer to see Mithril promoting itself better, but I can't really see how it's an 'either/or' situation. How would not having the GF actually release funds that could then be spent on advertising? I think Lars is too astute a businessman to persevere with producing a dozen figures a year that don't at least cover their costs; and if they at least cover their costs, then closing down the GF wouldn't actually save any money.

As for your first question, Master Gildor, I'm still not sure that it was the partial GF boycott that got through to Lars and Michael that we were very unhappy about the new M range prices. I think it was your 'open letter' which achieved that. But the GF forum comments may well have served to underline the point.

Now that the immediate 'crisis' has been resolved, incidentally, I'm puzzled why many people still haven't suggested a GF figure for this month.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#1900 Tue, Jun9 2009 6:04am

ESTEL
The Lord of the Paints
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 497

Re: The Taproom

Gavin wrote:

I like the Gold Fellowship. I love some of the things we've gotten out of it. I could live without the Gold Fellowship, I suspect.

Still want my Elf Bard, Northman Healer and Shield-maiden damnit. Oh and Elladan and Elrohir in their ranger garb at the Black Gate. smile

So please suggest the two brothers, I like the idea very much, named characters, yesssssssssss....


"From the ashes a fire shall be woken, 
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
The crownless again shall be king".

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