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I've already voted for young Gandalf, Master Elf.

As for the very old Mithril guys, I'm afraid that the 'Army of the Witchking' figures are too far in the distant past to be a practical proposition for a present-day wargame army. They're also Dol Guldur era rather than Minas Morgul era, which is what I'm looking for, and - to be honest - I'm not especially keen on them anyway (with all due apologies and vast amounts of respect to The Man).

Good points on the uniforms...leaves me pondering.   I think I need a refill....

I'm here. I just haven't got any news to report at the moment, so I thought I'd just sit easy for a while.

Huuoommmm ... I placed my vote days ago, Master Gildor .... rhuoomm.
Well, Master Barliman, as business isn't brisk around here I suggest to take a walk to the Mathom House .... huoommm ... I placed some new pics over there .... hom ... for a while ...
no time for a bowl of that clear clean water today .... I have to be busy .... rhuoommmmm.

huoommmrhuoommmmm .... I'm a bit undecided for some days .... keeps me thinking of the MX.
On the one hand this should be an MX (that means to be rare). So 100 castings will be sold by Mithril. .... huoommm ... Master Edman suggested to cast 200 of them figures ... rhuoomm ....
as I look at the members here I can count 20 ... the Gold-Fellowship believes to be about 250 ...
huoommm ... on the other hand I would like to keep that MX as it is ... rhuoomm ... some kind of rarity .... please comment about this .... thank you

I suspect if you cast 100 figures and sell them for 32 euros, you will sell them out really quickly. Everyone wants a rarity, and the MX figures are usually awesome.

I suspect there are 250 members of the Gold Fellowship and most of them probably buy the figures. Eventually. Most don't participate - its the same 20 or 30 people voting and suggesting. You'd probably shift more if the price point was lower. You'd also likely get more contributors to the forum and the voting if the price point is lower.

So if you made, say, 200 MX figures, then you can have a lower price point and more will sell. They just won't sell as fast.

My brain's a bit muddled this morning, but I suspect in the longer term, cheaper Fellowship/MX miniatures are the way to go. Make them double the price of their M equivalents.

But all this is purely academic unless Mithril finds a way of increasing its visibility and access to its products.

Gavin

Last edited by Gavin (Sun, Mar2 2008 5:28pm)

huommm .. thank you ... I would just like to give insight of sales strategy ... of the old 'Frumgar' there still are some to be sold down under ... we, the team, decided to have an extra-100 Frumgars casted for about 2,50 GBP/per figure ... they didn't sell in those numbers ....
That means there will not be 200 MX-Imrahils. But I know that those 100 will be sold out within a week, methinks. Sorry... I'll be back later on ...

Withour getting involved in all the convoluted maths (I have difficulty counting up the handful of coiny things in the till), that seems the simplest and most realistic solution to me.

To talk about something else...

Well it seems that my eagle idea is flying away... and my "concept" of what a vignette month should be, is not shared at all with all members. Indeed vignettes are expensive, but they are rare among the MS choices to be made.
I must admit I am a bit disapointed (though nothing is lost yet)
The first vignettes released early during the first GF months had the true spirit of a vignette (Sauron vs Elendil/Isildur , the death of Boromir, the death of Thorin) Even in the MV series,  the Death of Theoden, the Coming of Prince Imrahil... or former ones... all of them were true vignettes, with personnalities inside them.
But it seems that some think vignettes as "multiple figurines" or just a fighting scene not depicting events. I always thought that Vignettes should be events put into shape to capture an instant. And usually, this instand must be a strong one  to deserve a vignette of its own (rather than a diorama made by collectors amateurs or professionals) something that deserves more than simple assembling of figurines but rather a whole as a sculpture.

I may be mistaken, but for those of us, if there are any, who love vignettes... they are too scarce , I think, to suggest a vignette which is just a juxtaposition of two or more single figurines, most of all, anonymous ones. Indeed, anybody has rights to submit mounted, single figurines too. But when it comes to suggesting vignettes I think it would be cool to have them, real vignettes with "names among them"

I know my point of view cannot be shared by many alas. Maybe I'll submit a MX one day... It happens that I have a budget allocated especially for Mithril still Sauron vignette was expensive far much thant anticipated (I don't think any of us could know what price such a vignette could reach at the time of its vote... Since then people are -and this is very normal- quite afraid figurines may reach a big price...
Oh by the way I don't always submit expensive ideas Cirdan was my idea too and well, it was just a single figurine.

What saddens me the most is... vignette or single or any kind of GF release... is when the "theme" is not "special". For example, the corsair Admiral, it is a cool figurine indeed, but it could have been casted along with the corsairs of Umbar regular M series...  Now if you want the whole corsairs fleet, you have to be a member of the GF..... which is a bit odd. and though the corsair admiral is very well sculpted.... I admit I did not vote for it because I did not see its relevance among GF "specials".... same for lossoth hunter, female ranger or  troll drummeror trhanduil's standard bearer...
but once again, everbody is free  and the general vote proved me wrong on my "way of thinking"

well that's all too true barliman... Fact is that people submit - what should otherwise be considered common - figurines because the regulard range is too... slow to be released and satisfy people. So if people have some figurines they'd like to see released, they use the GF system to accelerate the process of release... but in the end, that's not really satisfying for anybody... Either the diorama maker who needs variants, the army make who'd require several types of a same "theme", and the collector, who will anyway buy a figurine for his collection to keep it complete though he does not like it.

Let's look at the lossoth example : some people would gladly like a full range of lossoth, the same way some wanted a range of corsairs. It happens that the corsairs were soon to be released (which was unknown at the time of the vote) and so, it could have been a regular release. So people tend to suggest and vote for things they'd like to see released, no matter if it is special or not....
Maybe We should suggest to Mithril that future M series be announced quite some time before (providing TE accepts it) and that would help us choose wether or not to suggest something in the GF system...
Or maybe extend GF power to vote which future release we would like to see released, among a list of choices Mithril would give us.  That would be a good idea.
I doubt there are any GW spies around here that would inform GW about what Mithril plans to do in order to counter Mithril and create problems with TE licensing... that would really be ... childish and unproductive , as for sure all of you will agree.
Maybe this "vote" could only be accessed via the GF boards so that it is not public and require some seriousness as well as not to risk a leak towards GW.

thinking about MX... i have some questions for master Ent

The official page mentions 30 high quality figures + broken mould to be sent to sponsor. Actually that's quite different from what has been done so far (100+30 and only picture of mould) I was wondering if the Price the sponsor had to pay for this "difference" was significant?  Actually, ~2500€ was for 30 figurines or for 100+30 with 100 being sold by Mithril for their income only?  Or is the price less expensive, if you choose to have those 100 made and sold with 100% benefits for Mithril, as it is certain to sold out...Could you please give me some info about it master ent? (if you prefer to answer privately I'll understand of course)

Holger, once the database is complete... and damn i am overwhelmed at trying to complete it... and the gallery a bit more furnished... I will advertise a lot for this site... and add its link for mithril official website, that may result in a lot of people coming here... out of curiosity at first... And I found several people who were interested, not knowing about this community, and who should appear any time soon on the mailboard.

Also, please note that in the links section of mithril.ie, mmp.perilousrealm.com still appears there, and is referenced though it does not exist anymore. Maybe we should contact mithril telling them to switch the description and the link to this site instead, and cancel the old link....

then you mean that the 100 more that Mithril is selling for collectors... do exist courtesy of the funds of the sponsor? If a sponsor would or could not afford to pay the "surplus" for these 100  there would not be any of them?
which means that in the end, it cost far much more than 2500€ ?