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#2926 Wed, Dec2 2009 3:35pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

so Bob is not a baby but Nob is? how odd indeed


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#2927 Wed, Dec2 2009 4:55pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

You mean you hadn't noticed...?

Nob: small, lots of trouble, never does what he's supposed to... = child.
Bob: capable of dealing with horses, works hard, can hold his ale, and has sufficient intelligence to own a cat... = adult.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#2928 Wed, Dec2 2009 5:31pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Huoommmm .... convincing definitions ...

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#2929 Wed, Dec2 2009 5:43pm

OriginalAragorn
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From: California
Registered: Fri, Apr3 2009
Posts: 257

Re: The Taproom

Broggha is a bit morbid for my taste.. but I'm sure I'm the exception, not the rule!


And here we find you feasting and idling - and smoking! Smoking! Where did you come by the weed, you villains? - Gimli

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#2930 Wed, Dec2 2009 9:06pm

Theobald
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From: the Osning in Germany
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Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Huoommmm ... I cannot tell, Master OriginalAragorn ... about Broggha, I mean ... huomm ... so far I had no chance to have a close look at him, holding the figure in my hands ...  rhuoomm ... maybe that'll be in time for Christmas if I'm lucky ... rhuoommm ... just have a look at the latest newsletter provided today ... huoommm ... all those hasty people ... anyway, I hope that this would only mean a very short delay ... as there are other delays that still keep me worrying ... rhuooommmhomhom ... some there are ... rhuoomm ... and I don't refer to MS-releases with this ... huooommmm ... it's the regular M-series ... rhuom ... but why worry ... huom?

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#2931 Fri, Dec4 2009 3:44am

OriginalAragorn
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From: California
Registered: Fri, Apr3 2009
Posts: 257

Re: The Taproom

Questions for my comrades:

I just got Smaug the Dragon Triumphant (Lovely!) and The Lord of the Nazgul (Charming!).

My questions:
1)  Have you used drill & pins to hold the limbs in place, especially in places that have weight (such as the Fellbeasts feet attachment, Smaug's limbs, etc)?
2)  Do you use any special kind of glue?  I just have regular GW hobby glue (super glue).

Thanks!
George


And here we find you feasting and idling - and smoking! Smoking! Where did you come by the weed, you villains? - Gimli

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#2932 Fri, Dec4 2009 5:20am

presto247365
Adventurer
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 94

Re: The Taproom

I think Broggha is going to be great friends with this guy:

Click to close

Last edited by presto247365 (Fri, Dec4 2009 5:36am)

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#2933 Fri, Dec4 2009 7:49am

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

the Lord of Nazgul parts are not very very heavy actually, I have used super glue, but no need of any drill in addition. Everything is perfectly balanced

as for Smaug Triumphant, since he is resting on his four legs he does not have problems either, BUT in order to be certain, I used, in addition to super glue, some of this two-component paste used by craftmen to fix and repair many things under pressure. (two component pastes that , when mixed, heatens, then becomes rapidly very very strong and hard as stone and resistant to pression) It is like Miliput but 10 times more resistant and also it dries ten times more rapidly (you have to sculpt quite fast in it before it dries!)  you can then use files to smooth this hardened surface and make it continuous with metal.

I use this paste for fixing tails and wings of all my dragons, instead of miliput.  The Vengence of Smaug though, on flight, needs some drilling between torso and tail, and wings and torso, as it is very badly balanced


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#2934 Fri, Dec4 2009 7:52am

Barliman
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From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

That two-part paste sounds useful, Master Elf - what is it called?


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#2935 Fri, Dec4 2009 8:21am

Arthadan
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From: Spain
Registered: Fri, Nov6 2009
Posts: 426

Re: The Taproom

I always pin big part such wings and so, but as Master Gildor said, is not indispensable. I recommend Gale Force Nine superglue, it's the stongest one I have ever tried.


To mortal fields say farewell,
Middle-earth forsaking!
In Elvenhome a clear bell
in the high tower is shaking.

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#2936 Fri, Dec4 2009 12:16pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 4098
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Re: The Taproom

about the paste I use, well, it has several names since several brands sell it... It is not a modelling tool, it is use for house works.

here is a link to such kind of product : http://www.diybathrepair.com/html/kit_mastic.html

when you have to fix things fast, and with quite some tensile strength (such as metallic wings) it really makes miracle!
(my "unbalanced" smaug triumphant NEVER broke with this paste, it bent... but in bent due to the metal of the figurine, never on the junction points with tails and wings. )
Besides you can drill it, file it, sculpt it (fast!) ... far better than any kind of miliput for crucial and dangerous fixations.


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#2937 Fri, Dec4 2009 1:40pm

Wendy
Slowest Painter Ever
From: Michigan, USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 365
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Re: The Taproom

Five minute epoxy works too...

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#2938 Fri, Dec4 2009 3:23pm

OriginalAragorn
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From: California
Registered: Fri, Apr3 2009
Posts: 257

Re: The Taproom

Thanks for the great suggestions!  smile


And here we find you feasting and idling - and smoking! Smoking! Where did you come by the weed, you villains? - Gimli

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#2939 Fri, Dec4 2009 5:22pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
Posts: 2724

Re: The Taproom

mmmh, returning to the statement of Master Presto 247365: Yes! It seems that way.
A great conversion that is. And a wonderful paintjob also!
You should post this somewhere else here in the depths of the MMP !!!


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#2940 Sat, Dec5 2009 5:18am

presto247365
Adventurer
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 94

Re: The Taproom

I think I might have on the "old MMP".  I suppose it belongs in the conversions gallery.  It'll show up there sooner or later, with some other goodies I've come across....

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#2941 Fri, Dec11 2009 2:41am

twrich
The Man in the Dark
From: Minneapolis, MN USA
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 752

Re: The Taproom

Well, it seems to have become very quiet in here lately. But I do hear many words coming from some room over on the Easterling end of the Pony.

I have not heard any words recently from Master Tubb, but still expect to. At least that is what I have been told to expect.

In the meantime Barli, could you send Nob over with an ale? I last saw him "eavedropping" over by the Easterling room!

Last edited by twrich (Fri, Dec11 2009 5:06am)


"All that is gold does not glitter, not all those that wander are lost." (Strider, The Fellowship of the Ring)

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#2942 Fri, Dec11 2009 8:21am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

As you should know by now, Master Ranger, The Man is not noted for the speed of his communications! My last two have gone entirely unheeded, though a reply to the first was promised many weeks ago. I think perhaps that his messengers sometimes get waylayed en route by the orcs and trolls loitering in the foothills. So, rather than drinking in here you might consider getting out there and doing what Rangers are famous for - go and do some, er, ranging. I'll give you a flask of something to take with you.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#2943 Fri, Dec11 2009 11:08am

ESTEL
The Lord of the Paints
Registered: Thu, Jan31 2008
Posts: 497

Re: The Taproom

what I've heard is, that the Easterlings would be an enterprise to expensive for the company at the moment. If T.E. has approved the Easterlings or not is not known.
It may not be up to the Man deciding mabye it is...who knows? Even the wise do not know.


"From the ashes a fire shall be woken, 
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be blade that was broken:
The crownless again shall be king".

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#2944 Fri, Dec11 2009 11:19am

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

No, Master Elf, I have it from The Man's own lips (well, his hands anyway) that he was unhappy to see the Easterling figures produced while there was any risk of them being produced like the Dol Amroth gentlemen, i.e. cast as one-piece horse-and-rider mouldings - he's determined to see them produced as separate horse and rider figures, so that they can be mixed and matched on different mounts. At least, that was the situation as I last heard of it, quite a while back. Of course, that also fits with the economics factor wou mention, since it must indeed be more expensive to cast them as two-piece figures. But things may have changed.

As for approval from TE, that I don't know anything about.

One odd thing, though, is that so far as I'm aware, none of us here have seen any pictures at all of the Easterling 'greens' as far as I'm aware (can anyone say that they have?) - which is unusual, if they are indeed completed.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#2945 Fri, Dec11 2009 3:15pm

Turambar
Archer of Mirkwood
From: Germany
Registered: Sun, Apr27 2008
Posts: 2724

Re: The Taproom

Ahhh, there is some narration to remind of about 6 months ago. The discussion about how to "fit" mithril a bit . . .:
T  H  E     G  R  E  E  N     R  O  O  M   !!!!
What a treasure, having news from The Man“s workbench . . . puhhh . . .
What a treasure for talented sculptors among us, like Mistress Wendy for example . . .
Well, The Man himself can decide feeding us with these things . . .


Maybe the magic was the most powerful force in the world. But that was long ago.
The dragons are gone, the giants are dead and the children of the woods are forgotten.

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#2946 Fri, Dec11 2009 3:41pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Huoooommmm ... as far as I can remember that Easterling range was completed quite a while ago, though before that there was some delay because of the number of mounted figures ... huommmrhuoommm ... but I too have never seen any pictures of the horde ... rhuoomm ...
separating riders from their mounts (in casting) of course is more expensive to do ... huoomm.
Not all mounted figures released in the Mithril range consisted of two parts, by the way ... huoom ... I'm not talking about the Dol Amroth knights .... hooooommmmm

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#2947 Fri, Dec11 2009 4:02pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

I think The Man was principally concerned that separate horses and riders would enable gamers and vignette-builders to introduce more variety to their collections, and that if he had foreseen the approach the factory ended up taking he would have provided more variety amongst the horse poses.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#2948 Fri, Dec11 2009 5:23pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Huooommmmm .... yes, Master Barliman ... with most of that you might be correct ... as far as I can understand ... rhuoomm ... them Dol Amrothy-knighty riders was not a release in terms of providing variety, not at all ... huoommm ... sadly with that release there was some other bad coincidence which was about the bad primer they used with that release for the first time .... rhuoommmm ...huom ... though here I would like to point out clearly that I still value the charging poses of the rather more English and Norman-based-on concepts (in terms of armour) of the Dol Amrothy-figures very much as they provided different shields, helmets and banners ... rhuoommmhuoommm ...
The way they were casted, and here you're absolutely right, and that's what The Man was concerned about, simply was that the figures, as being casted as they were, did not provide any variety at all for gamers or them vignette-building people ... rhuoommm ...
[anybody around here who could help me with me sentence structure?]
The horses' poses I would not criticize at all as they do reveil different movements in a charge ... rhuoommm ...
The concept of this variety you were referring to you will see early next year .... rhuoomhommhom ... I cannot haste, you know ... rhuoommm ... but it's not about Easterlings attacking the Shire, as you might guess ... huoomm ... hom ...
Rhhoommm ... Master Barliman, sorry, still reading? ... I dunno ... May I have one of that "YKW", please? ... rhuuoommm ... for the others (who have become rare in the Pony) ... rhuoommm ... I tried to cut it short this time: 'YKW' simply means "you know what" .... rhuoommm ... I just tried to become hasty ... huooommhuomrhuoommmm .... hom

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#2949 Fri, Dec11 2009 6:02pm

Barliman
The famous Innkeeper
From: Bree
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 4331

Re: The Taproom

As usual, Master Tree, the YKW is on the house - a bit like the rain at the moment. Ans thank you for the communication elaborating on my own understanding.


"A worthy man, but his memory is like a lumber-room: thing wanted always buried."

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#2950 Fri, Dec11 2009 7:49pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5724
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Re: The Taproom

Rhuooommm ... ?????????? ... huomm ... alas ... there's some problem about them ants you mentioned "Ants thank you" you said? .. alas ... Master barliman, please mind that I'm not a native speaker of Breeish, as I never was ... sorry ... rhuoommm ... but let me thank you for that large-bowl-of-YKW-you-freely-gave-away-without-considering-or-charging-my-tab or-even me-for-them-coiny-things-as-you-always-did-in the past-whenever- someone-around here-such-as-me-asked-you-to-have a drink - thank you very much.
Rhuuoommm ... please do not be puzzled by me wrong word order within sentences you are used to ... nor spelling ... or in explaining matters that surpassed me brain ... rhuoommm ... trees cannot do that ... rhuoomm, that's what you should know .... huoommmm smile

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