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My problem, I fear, is the hobbit size that they make keyboards. Why don't they produce a Man-sized one for them of us with big fat fingers? In the meantime, I'm afraid you'll have to put up with ans occasionally (other than in the bar-snacks).
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Huoommmm ... so here they are, the last three figures in 2009 ... huoommm ... Broggha has some nice details and the sub-reference design below the base has been changed ... huom ...
the pose of the Half-Troll is nice ... rhuoommmm ... Isildur is just another Isildur, nothing spectacular, I think, very much the same as the old Christmas figure but less details, of course, as this one is smaller.... gruooohuuommhom ... the primer ... huoommm ... sorry to mention that problem again ... but .... alas .... rhuoommmmmm ...
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I agree, Master Tree...the primer! They could save cost without the primer and I think we all be happier without the occasional thick layer of primer.
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time to warn mister Tubb again about the primer maybe?
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Well, the 'new'(?) primer is better than the custard inflicted on earlier figures, but I'd personally prefer that it wasn't there at all. It serves no useful purpose - quite the contrary - and if you want to simply 'display' figures unpainted, there's the added problem that the separate appendages supplied with figures usually aren't sprayed at all.
Maybe it would be better for Mithril not to spray their figures at all any more if this is the best primer they can obtain.
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I think the primer is worthless! I've received figures with two kinds of primers from Mithril:
1) Dark grey, glossy primer - which makes the paint too shiny when applied
2) Light grey, "powdery" primer - which gives the figure a gritty texture
They are both terrible!
I agree that it's odd to get the figure primed and the appendages unprimed. Other mini companies seem to use no primer at all. This gives collectors and painters the option of whether to prime at all. Also, many painters use black or white primer.
Anyway - I saw this thread and wanted to add my 2 cents!
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Well 1/2 troll, Broggah and Isildur arrived today - I do like the Isildur due to the left hand holding the helmet and cloak which to me gives the figure a bit more 'fullness' (I like 'em all as a matter of fact) - the others (Isildur versions) seem to be a little 'flat' looking when compared.
Perhaps regarding the primer Mithril should now stop priming figures as they don't sell via shops anymore therefore the visual impact of the primer compared against other ranges which were unprimed is no longer so relevant (this is what caught my eye all those years ago and is why I have always been a fan of the primer option). As the primer is causing so much irritation now seems a good time to leave it off and leave it to us to prime the figures ourselves.
I'm sure I'll pop in for a drink or two before the festivities start, but I hope you all have a good one wherever you are 
David
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Well, my Broggah edition also arrived today and the detailed qualitay mentioned by Master Theobald filled my heart with joy! Fantastic.
And the base: fantastic, too!
Concerning the primer: I didn´t order a new figure so I also can believe what you are saying. But if that´s true what you mentioned,
this is an unbelievable fact . . .
Why does the company make such mistakes . . .
Oh, I have to edit: thank god the Christmas figure is unprimed, so you can see all the magnificent details manufacted by The Man!
And there are A LOT.
And it will be a great pleasure for me priming the figure for myself, as thin as possible- for painting the miniature as good as possible!
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still waiting to receive them myself
I hope they did not forget the autoshipment as I did not order anything...
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received them today 
well indeed the primer has once again a problem... I informed the Man, who took good notice about the problem and will once again report it...
Fact is, with the "born of hope" figurine, I can assure you that primer DO and STILL exit that can achieve a wonderfull smooth and very mithril-of-the-old-days-like primer... it's just that Mithril does not use it, but Chris himself does.... and now I suppose that is very upsetting... there is no excuse about the availability of the primer... only about not being able to do it right at the factory...
I really hope there won't be any primer problem with the MX-UP or it could be disastrous with all the details to be shown on this masterpiece!
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Sadly ! I also I hope that MX UP will be without primer like this or with old primer... maybe the Man have his own supply of old primer... or special formula how to make it so he could sell his secret knowledge of the factory that produced primer for PA....
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You shouldn´t do the same mistake twice !
Or even three times--thinking about the "party".
Then the Tree becomes angry again, and in this case I suppose very much.
But somewhere he mentioned no problems are there to be expected . . . Why should I NOT trust him!
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Oh, Master Barliman, is there the possibility to get a nice breakfast here . . . a warm toast with some scrambled egg and a cup of, well, coffee?
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Huooommm ... right you are, Master Rita.de, once I said that no problems with the primer will be expected .... huoommm ... then I was quoting The Man ... that was after the first primer-desaster ....rhuoommm ... some time ago by now ... huoomm ... now I'm worried again, as you might understand ... huoommm ... I will contact The Man immediately about this matter as I really do not want the MX-UP being smeared with some ugly-grey-glossy-slimy stuff that might even cover details .... rhuoommmm .... I'll do what I can, believe me ... huoom .... hom!
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Good luck with that, Master Tree. I'm sure the absence of porridge (also known as undercoat) will contribute to the overall quality of the model exponentially.
And my apologies, Master Archer, I had to go out early today to see some suppliers. I hope Nob dealt with breakfast adequately (I'm not sure I'd trust his ability to cook even an egg, but we have to make do with the staff we can get these days; I'd probably do better to put Bob's cat in charge when I have visits to make - though if I did I'm not sure there'd be any milk left for the coffee, so you'd have to take it black).
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I´ll take your apologies, Master Barliman. And no worry, I prefer a black coffee. Hot´n ´black !!!
There are more things these times which need an apology . . .
Master Theoblad, maybe the company should make their mind up to give an "undercoat" edition of the glorious MX-project.
The current Christams-figure is produced undercoated as everybody knows, and this is not a negative point . . .
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when you mean undercoat you mean this "antique finish"?
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So: stupid question:
Can you paint over an "antiqued" finish? Or failing that, can you get the stuff off the figure?
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Well, Master Gavin, I never tried to get the stuff of a Christmas figure, as I'm a collector. But of course it can be done. That "antique finish" is just put on the figures to point out details you wouldn't be aware of if the figures were kept without any finish. So you have the shiny silvery appearance but the "antique finish" gives the figures more volume and reveils details better ...rhuooommm ... as for painting over an "antiqued" finish ... huoommm ... I would not recommend ... huoommm ...
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The answer is: YES ! Of course.
First I have to explain that "undercoat" is the wrong word- of course. I meant: without any primer at all, blank, naked, so to say.
You can prime the miniatures for yourself! In this case. As thin as you like.
Let me explain another thing: I strip of the primer in general, because I want to have the "raw" material for the metal parts which I paint with waterlike black oil-colour.
The rest will be primed with some Humbrol and painted later on. I will do exactly this with Broggha.
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Ah yes, I am late in here.
I just have got my last order of Mithril figures today and was disgusted to have got minis with the new ähmm thick stuff or primer on them. Tried to get rid of this juic, but it did only work for the MS-Isildur . Has anyone experience with the new ähm undercoat and how to get the figure "naked"/blank?
I have to say, that I did not understand the debate about the primer-thing some time ago, as my figures always were in the best condition. But that thick juice on Gamlings rally is horrible.....
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I use Cilit Bang (called Bam! here) and more recently, Simple Green.
Put them in a jar...and wait. It will take a while, but eventually the stuff starts sloughing off. luckily I am in no hurry to paint the Rohirrim. Too busy doing other things, but I suspect it will take at least a week normally to get the gunk off.
Tomorrow I will go retrieve them from the jar of doom and start putting them together. I will report my progress.
Gavin
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Thank you very much Gavin for the idea.
I tried it with some kind of dissolvent, but as I said it only worked for the Isildur figure, but not for the Rohirrim, or for the Half Orc. It seems to me the Company has tried another new primer for the MS-figures than for the normal M-version being older. Damn stupid as the mail is almost plain now. I hope I can get the best with a nice paint job out of them.
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You really need to be patient, especially with the new gunk.
Also, invest in a wire brush - the things like a tooth brush, only with brass wires? Gently "brush" the crud off the figure and then (hopefully) you'll have a nice clean miniature.
Gavin
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