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#1 Thu, Jun2 2016 1:48pm

Milo
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Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

New releases are available on mithril web site.
Only 6 holes left ! wink

Here there are:
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M541, M542, M543, M544, M545 are created in MMP database.
Master Gildor, could you please add Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc' in database collection list ?wink

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#2 Thu, Jun2 2016 2:20pm

Thingol
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Drum...drum... figures are great.. price is not great.. but I will buy them soon...


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#3 Thu, Jun2 2016 5:48pm

Mornedhel
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

I cannot share The idea the figures are great. They are fine, Yes but quite standard and below today production


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#4 Thu, Jun2 2016 6:09pm

Barliman
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

The figures look fine to me, but the price is - as predicted elsewhere on this site - horrible. Just one of each figure will cost about £50 (not sure what that is in Mickey Mouse Euros, but equally horrible I imagine). I shall buy one set at least, plus maybe some extras, but I'll have to arrange a bank overdraft first.


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#5 Thu, Jun2 2016 6:20pm

Theobald
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

You cannot be serious about the price, Master Barliman ... one figure about 50 GBP ??? That simply is wrong when you have a look at the prices at Mithril's official board.

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#6 Thu, Jun2 2016 6:28pm

Barliman
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

No, Master Tree, "one of each figure" is what I said - i.e. five figures in total.Not even Mithril would dare tio charge £50 per figure. Not yet anyway.


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#7 Thu, Jun2 2016 7:42pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

those figurines have been sculpted LOOOOOOOOOONG ago, and since that time, the Man has increased details and many aspect of his sculpting... we can see , through them, a flashback both in style, precision and pose that was far better in the recent years...  but still, they were to be released... so here they are...

the price though.... ouch... I'd have to retrieve how expensive we paid last time, for helm's deep 2... I don't remember them to be that high... I still have the bill somewhere.


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#8 Thu, Jun2 2016 11:41pm

Thingol
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

7,65 Euros were figures in Helms deep I, 11,95 Euros were figures in HD II... bigger and sculpted with more details than HD III and those are also 11,95... my opinion is that this is to much for this kind of figures... but do we have a choice ?.... yes we have... to wait first bigger discount....


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#9 Fri, Jun3 2016 1:30am

Turambar
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

The price??????? C´mon people: you pay everytime since years about 21 euros for single figures like Woman feeding chicken or disfiguring elves . . .
And now you blame this 12 euros ??????
Nevertheless those are 2010-like orcs. That is nothing to wonder about if orcs sculpted in 2010 or earlier were released in 2016.
Anyway- I do like them a lot and will buy every single one surely.


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#10 Fri, Jun3 2016 9:06am

Barliman
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

I think they're expensive. You don't. That's fine. I've bought a set regardless, though I shall await one of Mithril's fairly frequent reduced price sales before I buy any more.


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#11 Fri, Jun3 2016 3:33pm

Gerold
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

oh yes, and do you remember the time of the Lossarnach figures ? 3,75 euro for 1 fig and 6,20 euro for a set of two figs...THAT was cheap!

Only five empty numbers left now... Will there be a Helm's Deep part IV (or IIIb) ? Or something completely different...

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#12 Fri, Jun3 2016 4:06pm

hsf62
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

A Helm's Deep 4 for Euro 15.00 a figure...  lollollol


Where there is a will there is a way, just as there are no problems, only solutions! Guess it depends on ones own perspective of the matter at that time big_smile

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#13 Fri, Jun3 2016 4:23pm

Maenas
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

I also think they are expensive, as I think paying 21 euros for a single miniature is expensive too (whether it is a named character or not, it does not matter to me nowadays).
I will also wait for the next discount offer.

It is a pity that Mithril is "promoting" my kind of behaviour... I mean. There must be more people thinking this very same thing... "I will wait for the next discount" If I were the owner I would prefer a kind of steady income, than a couple or three yearly huge incomes. With this method/behaviour they are also discouraging people from the autoshipment, I think....


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#14 Fri, Jun3 2016 4:27pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

usually mass production (retail sets) are cheaper than single GF ones.... that's scale economy. and indee 11,95 is cheaper than 21€

still, those figurines are not the result of suggestion, votes, and our ideas and there is a clear lack of detail dating back from 2010 as master Turambar points out.

Also, buying five 11,95€ figs in a row is not the same budget as buying one 21€ per month ... so it is subjectivly expensive.
Most of all when you consider there will be promo offers at one point or another in the future...


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#15 Fri, Jun3 2016 8:35pm

Thingol
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Many times it's proven that the real price of their figure, factory achieved with discaount of at least 30%... so those figures are for me in price range of Mirkwood 2... this is to expensive for me.. but in final, figures will anyway fall into my collection...


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#16 Fri, Jun3 2016 9:18pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

well with autoshipment that makes them at 10,75€ still a bit high, but less...

the advantage points though (which I never use normally...) makes them with a discount of 40€ oO  which makes the whole at 25€ including shipping oO

I suppose some of you possess advantage points too, you should check it !


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#17 Fri, Jun3 2016 9:48pm

Barliman
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Never looked at mine yet. I shall have to see what I've accrued.


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#18 Fri, Jun3 2016 9:53pm

ddaines
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Barliman wrote:

Never looked at mine yet. I shall have to see what I've accrued.

It is worth it, I got a good lot having 'forgotten' about the Advantage Points - is there a time limit though? Can't remember.

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#19 Fri, Jun3 2016 9:55pm

ddaines
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Gerold wrote:

oh yes, and do you remember the time of the Lossarnach figures ? 3,75 euro for 1 fig and 6,20 euro for a set of two figs...THAT was cheap!

Only five empty numbers left now... Will there be a Helm's Deep part IV (or IIIb) ? Or something completely different...

I remember when a single figure was 99p, less than £1 UK wink.

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#20 Sat, Jun4 2016 11:08am

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

yes there is a time limit, so better use them once in a while before they are gone (mine were up until 2017 so there is time yet but well, as I am on autoshipment for GF,  it is interesting only for regulars... as you can imagine, I won't buy loyalty figures ever as I have them all)


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

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#21 Sat, Jun4 2016 12:41pm

Turambar
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

May I add something. (normally things r-eappear not once!)
This is unfortunately only a screenshot, dated Sep, 30, 2011!

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#22 Sat, Jun4 2016 1:43pm

Theobald
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Indeed, those so-called "advantage points" are not of any advantage for collectors on autoshipment.

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#23 Sat, Jun4 2016 2:06pm

Gildor Inglorion
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

well they are in this case master Theobald , I overuled the autoshipment by ordering manually beforehand (and I warned MaryAnn at mithril to be sure)
this way i was able to use my advantage points.

As Michael once said, autoshipment applies automatically if you have not passed an order before the autoshipment process (wich is done one week or two after figs are put for sale) . If you order manually then autoshipment is put on hold for this release. Well that's how it is supposed to work


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#24 Mon, Jun13 2016 8:23pm

Barliman
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Well, my bomb-crew arrived today.

Is it just me, or are the Orcs unexpectedly.......tiny?


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#25 Mon, Jun13 2016 8:49pm

Thingol
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Re: Helm's Deep - 'The fire of Orthanc'

Orcish baby bomb unit....


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