Many Mithril Pages @ Faerylands

You are not logged in.

Announcement

           

#26 Fri, Dec31 2010 4:36pm

elroi
Master of Brushes
From: Sevilla / Malaga
Registered: Wed, Dec22 2010
Posts: 170
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

As requested by Master Milo, a little tutorial for metallics:

How to paint a shoulder pad, in rusty and dirty metals.

Step 1: The basecoat of an orc armour is a consistent mix of a dark metal colour (Chainmail or Boltgun, Citadel paints) and a little of black. I apply 2-3 thin layers of paint.

Step 2: Now I give a thin wash, applied very carefully, of mix of a bright red (Citadel Blood Red) and a brown (Citadel Bestial brown), at 50% each colour. This is the wet look when I apply the wash.

Step 3: This is the look of the dry wash.

Step 4: Now I give a more reddish wash (75% red – 25% brown of the colours of the step 2).

Step 5: Here I use Turquoise colour, around the spikes and along the contact zones of the different armour plates. I use the paint very liquid, almost 40-50% of water, and applied very carefully again.

Step 6: Here I repeat the last step, but mixing now the turquoise with a little of white, and applying the mix in the same zones, but in little smaller areas.

Step 7: now, with a clear colour (Citadel Bleached Bone), I shape the edges of the armour, to give definition to the whole.   

Step 8: Finally I give a thin wash of black colour to all the metal (80% water). This is a picture of the average size of the miniature.

Click to close

Hope it helps somebody!

Offline

 

#27 Sun, Jan2 2011 5:21pm

Milo
The Attic Warden
From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4075

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Thank you so much for providing such clear and detailed tutorials ! big_smile
I am sure many of us will find something usefull. I didfind what I needed tongue.


Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
________________________
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
J.R.R.Tolkien

Offline

 

#28 Sun, Jan8 2012 12:34pm

Milo
The Attic Warden
From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4075

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

It's been a year since last tutorial was posted here.
May I require Master Elroi to make a new one regarding most difficult part on mithrils ?

I would like to learn how you paint skin on a hobbit face rolltonguecooltongue

Last edited by Milo (Sun, Jan8 2012 12:35pm)


Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
________________________
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
J.R.R.Tolkien

Offline

 

#29 Wed, Feb1 2012 12:31pm

elroi
Master of Brushes
From: Sevilla / Malaga
Registered: Wed, Dec22 2010
Posts: 170
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

A promise is a promise, here is a step by step guide to paint a hobbit face, in a easy way:

First, apply a basecoat of flesh paint.

Click to close

It´s up to you to choose the exact tone you wish. I used this one from Vallejo

Click to close

Then, I give a thin wash of dark brown paint, and before it dries, remove the excess that may cumulate into deep areas

Click to close

I used Scorched Brown, from Citadel

Click to close

Now, the “problematic” steps. Using the flesh basecoat tone, plus a bit of Bleached Bone of Citadel (never use pure white), I give the lights around the face, following the scheme. I apply 2-3 very thin coats all around the surface marked in green. Its very  important to dilute well the paint. Don´t mind if the first coat does not cover much, that´s why I use the 2-3 coats.

In this case, in mithril miniatures, I generally interpret the zone of the eyes as the eyelids, not the eyeballs (that’s why I paint them in flesh tone, and don´t paint the pupils).

Click to close

After that, I give again 2-3 thin coats of the same mix, but using more bleached bone, in the zones marked in green again. Important to do it slowly and carefully.

Click to close

Now, I do the shadowing, using a mix of Brown (the same as befote) and a bright orange. I dilute a lot the mix, and aply carefully in the shadow zones (see the scheme)

Click to close

The final step is to apply a very thin wash of red+orange (with lot of water) at all the face (remember to remove the excess of water before it dries of all the areas), to give the skin a healthy look. I also gave a subtle shade of blue to the eyelids, to represent a little make-up (and to go together to the dress)

Click to close

Well, that´s all folks! Hope it helps to paint these tiny friends!

Offline

 

#30 Wed, Feb1 2012 1:03pm

Thingol
Brave Sam the gardener
From: Republic of Croatia
Registered: Tue, Jul28 2009
Posts: 3325
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Very useful information. I've applied your advice, but with other colors. Instead of water I use thinner. Effects with diluted shades of color is almost the same as in your examples of painting. I refashioned the nearly 400 pieces... !!! Simply by coating with 40%, 50% and 70% diluted paint and changing colors. It is now all color schemes scales from dark to light. the consequences are that the average time painting for figurines is increased by at least 15 hours.... ! Hm... I am quite satisfied now ... !!! smile


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

Offline

 

#31 Wed, Feb1 2012 1:42pm

imisel
Collector
From: A Corunna - Spain
Registered: Thu, Nov18 2010
Posts: 530

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

thanks a lot, great tutorial, elroi!


Ilsa:A franc for your thoughts.
Rick: In America they'd bring only a penny, and, huh, I guess that's about all they're worth.

CASABLANCA (1942)

Offline

 

#32 Wed, Feb1 2012 2:13pm

Milo
The Attic Warden
From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4075

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Ah, now I see how I should work on faces.
That makes many layers for such a small face roll, but for sure, obtained result is just fantastic.

This hobbit woman looks pretty wink

Merci Roi ! cool

Last edited by Milo (Wed, Feb1 2012 2:13pm)


Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
________________________
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
J.R.R.Tolkien

Offline

 

#33 Wed, Feb1 2012 2:37pm

elroi
Master of Brushes
From: Sevilla / Malaga
Registered: Wed, Dec22 2010
Posts: 170
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Happy to help!!

Thingol wrote:

V I refashioned the nearly 400 pieces... !!! Simply by coating with 40%, 50% and 70% diluted paint and changing colors

400!! lot of work, Master Thingol. But working with diluted paints and such amount of miniatures for sure has give you a lot of practice to improve your paintwork.

Master Milo, yes, there are lot of layers, but the surface is so small that the work is done very quickly

Offline

 

#34 Mon, Jan14 2013 7:24am

sevlag
Collector
From: France
Registered: Wed, May4 2011
Posts: 409
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Hello Gentlemen, I need your help please tongue
To complete my tomb, I must refine the roof. But it's slate. Having never painted and not having as model around me (the roofs are made with tiles in my area), I don't know how to color it.
For now, I spent two layers of black paint: is it enough? do I need varnish to make it shine or do I need to brush other (s) paint (s) and if yes whom?
Click to close     Click to close
I await your tips with impatience winktongue
Thank you in advance big_smile

Offline

 

#35 Mon, Feb25 2013 8:09pm

ddaines
Skilled Artisan
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1657

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

sevlag wrote:

Hello Gentlemen, I need your help please tongue
To complete my tomb, I must refine the roof. But it's slate. Having never painted and not having as model around me (the roofs are made with tiles in my area), I don't know how to color it.
For now, I spent two layers of black paint: is it enough? do I need varnish to make it shine or do I need to brush other (s) paint (s) and if yes whom?
Click to close     Click to close
I await your tips with impatience winktongue
Thank you in advance big_smile

I wonder if it may be worth repainting in a lighter colour, or at least give the roof a heavy application of dry-brushing to make the raised details come out, and then use a dark shade of chalk pastel to emphasise the edges and overlapping of the slate. I would probably do this, or alternately if you prefer you could apply a wash instead of pastels - remember with pastels you have to seal them using an aerosol sealer AND I have found that if you use a light pastel over a dark base, when you seal it the pastel can vanish sad - I found out the hard way (be careful of my terminology here in case pastels are known to you under a different name smile).

It also depends on how long the Tomb has been waiting for Aragorn - if it is an open air tomb I would also add some white/loight streaks to depict discolouration be water - If it was a lead roof you could probably add a white wash to give that aged lead effect and streak the wash/paint. At such a small scale less is probably best though.

This is a farly quick answer as we are about to go out to eat, but hopefully will give you some food for thought.

David

Offline

 

#36 Mon, Feb25 2013 8:12pm

ddaines
Skilled Artisan
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 1657

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

elroi wrote:

A promise is a promise, here is a step by step guide to paint a hobbit face, in a easy way:

First, apply a basecoat of flesh paint.

Click to close

It´s up to you to choose the exact tone you wish. I used this one from Vallejo

Click to close

Then, I give a thin wash of dark brown paint, and before it dries, remove the excess that may cumulate into deep areas

Click to close

I used Scorched Brown, from Citadel

Click to close

Now, the “problematic” steps. Using the flesh basecoat tone, plus a bit of Bleached Bone of Citadel (never use pure white), I give the lights around the face, following the scheme. I apply 2-3 very thin coats all around the surface marked in green. Its very  important to dilute well the paint. Don´t mind if the first coat does not cover much, that´s why I use the 2-3 coats.

In this case, in mithril miniatures, I generally interpret the zone of the eyes as the eyelids, not the eyeballs (that’s why I paint them in flesh tone, and don´t paint the pupils).

Click to close

After that, I give again 2-3 thin coats of the same mix, but using more bleached bone, in the zones marked in green again. Important to do it slowly and carefully.

Click to close

Now, I do the shadowing, using a mix of Brown (the same as befote) and a bright orange. I dilute a lot the mix, and aply carefully in the shadow zones (see the scheme)

Click to close

The final step is to apply a very thin wash of red+orange (with lot of water) at all the face (remember to remove the excess of water before it dries of all the areas), to give the skin a healthy look. I also gave a subtle shade of blue to the eyelids, to represent a little make-up (and to go together to the dress)

Click to close

Well, that´s all folks! Hope it helps to paint these tiny friends!

Excellent advice and tips big_smile

Offline

 

#37 Tue, Feb26 2013 8:31pm

sevlag
Collector
From: France
Registered: Wed, May4 2011
Posts: 409
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

ddaines wrote:

There are no secrets Séverine, only answers big_smile. The cavern is expanded polystyrene foam, I think from packaging so part of the shape was already there. Over this I applied what we call Polyfiller - a DIY mix for filling in cracks and holes etc. on walls and such like.

The cobwebs............ well these were 'borrowed' from a real spider big_smile. You have to collect the web on smooth sticks or rod so that it does not catch when you remove it.

As the web sticks to every micro snag this is a method requiring patience! wink

To apply the web just carefully tease it out and try as best as you can to attach it to anchor points - I personally didn't use any glue, but I suppose you can.

If you were making web between trees, e.g. a Mirkwood diorama you can stick the trees or object into the web and twirl it around (see large scale figure below wink).

The light of Earendil is a small dolls house light stuck to Sam's hand and the web hides the wire (unfortunately the transformer for the light set no longer works so unless I replace it, darkness will ever be on Shelob's Lair!


Click to close

The waterfall is simply clear acetate sheet from a package that has Woodlands Scenics Water Effects/Realistic Water (I will go to my grave confusing the two products) squeezed on to it. I do aim to explain this technique with some forthcoming projects.

An interesting point which maybe Gildor can answer. I saw a comment posted by Milo regarding the Baldor figure, but I could not see any comment on the Shelob page from Séverine - am I missing soemthing Gildor? roll

Thank you for all these explanations very detailed, Master David winkbig_smile. I don't know if I'll ever be able to do as well as you, but the day I'll make my Shelob I think I'll inspire of what you did.
And the picture you put : Wow .... amazing, very yuck (beurk in french), but very well done, but very yuck .... And cobweb very impressive : poor woman.

Last edited by sevlag (Tue, Feb26 2013 8:35pm)

Offline

 

#38 Sat, Sep7 2013 5:49pm

sevlag
Collector
From: France
Registered: Wed, May4 2011
Posts: 409
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Gentlemen, I need your help again :
For a diorama I'm working on, I need a chandelier and mural lights, like these :
For the wall (with one or too lights) :
Click to close 
On the ceiling:
Click to close
I don't find this type of lighting on French websites. Have you in your country some dealers of these accessories (with or without electricity), at the scale of our Mitrhil, where I can order them?
Thank you in advance for your help big_smile

Last edited by sevlag (Sat, Sep7 2013 5:51pm)

Offline

 

#39 Wed, Sep18 2013 9:19am

Milo
The Attic Warden
From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4075

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

I am thinking of priming my miniatures one day.
Which primer is best for having 'mithril' look and also thin layer easy to put ?


Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
________________________
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
J.R.R.Tolkien

Offline

 

#40 Wed, Sep18 2013 11:43am

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5381
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

I use the Mithril grey spray primer (in spray cans). I am very much satisfied with it. Unfortunately the company announced some time ago that they cannot ship that primer via airmail any more (new laws, or something like that). That would be a great loss, I think.
Michael also mentioned that Mithril was about testing a new primer for painting. So far I have not heard of that any more.

Offline

 

#41 Wed, Sep18 2013 12:14pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 3679
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

yeah a pity we can't get this gray primer sad
was trying to get some too but too late due to laws...


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

Offline

 

#42 Wed, Sep18 2013 2:46pm

Milo
The Attic Warden
From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4075

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Maybe this reference is available outside the company. For instance, these is a Prince August shop in Toulouse. I will send them a mail.


Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
________________________
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
J.R.R.Tolkien

Offline

 

#43 Wed, Sep18 2013 3:51pm

Thingol
Brave Sam the gardener
From: Republic of Croatia
Registered: Tue, Jul28 2009
Posts: 3325
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Theobald wrote:

I use the Mithril grey spray primer (in spray cans). I am very much satisfied with it. Unfortunately the company announced some time ago that they cannot ship that primer via airmail any more (new laws, or something like that). That would be a great loss, I think.
Michael also mentioned that Mithril was about testing a new primer for painting. So far I have not heard of that any more.

Maybe they could send it with bus, boat or bike.... lol


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

Offline

 

#44 Wed, Sep18 2013 3:54pm

Thingol
Brave Sam the gardener
From: Republic of Croatia
Registered: Tue, Jul28 2009
Posts: 3325
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

You can use it Humbrol enamel http://www.humbrol.com/shop/paints/enam … mel-paint/ and use it with airbrush....


.... Farewell to Middle-earth at last. I see the Star above my mast!

Offline

 

#45 Wed, Sep18 2013 4:24pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5381
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Well, seriously, I don't want to miss that spray primer in the future and will try to find ways to get it again. Indeed it is not a primer produced by Mithril, the company producing it is from Britain. So, I'll see (at the moment I still keep enough of that to prime many more Mithril or Phaeton figures).
Yes, Master Thingol, before Mithril started to use it's current primer I also used Humbrol (Grey n° 1) which comes very close. But as I do not have an airbrush I had to be very careful in those days in adding more "liquid" to make it work to be used as a primer provided with a brush. If you are not that careful you smear the figures over so that all the tiny details are levelled and are extinguished. And ... the surface could turn to become too shiny.

Offline

 

#46 Wed, Sep18 2013 4:27pm

Milo
The Attic Warden
From: Toulouse, France
Registered: Tue, Mar30 2010
Posts: 4075

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

I just had a look on mithril web site, it is diffcult to identify the product with provided picture.
Master Ent, could have a look and tell me the exact reference for Mithril grey spray primer (in spray cans) please ?


Milo Gamgee-Took of Bywater
________________________
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
J.R.R.Tolkien

Offline

 

#47 Wed, Sep18 2013 6:07pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5381
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Dear Master Milo, since yesterday until the moment I am very much busy with two challenges that have to do with that "Thor-Vignette". That has to do with assembling and priming. -I will explain that later.
Master Milo, if I got you right you took the decision (at least) to present your very fine Mithril collection in a good way. That's good, I think, I took that decision some years ago. - So, all those unprimed parts of figures and especially the vignettes have to be primed in the best way to match them with the already grey-primed figures. I go along with that, as I took that same choice many years ago. The idea beyond is, if I get you right, to have a collection that is visible in glass cabinets giving the impression, that all this belongs together, did I get you right?
Well, yes, so we should start right here and not haste.
Indeed I would like to give some help here about primers and priming and things that have to do with it.
I'll get back a bit later, as I want to find out how that primer does on the resin parts of Thor.
Gruuuoooômmm as for anyone else around here ... this is in public and I'm not only talking to Master Milo ... huom
I'll get back later, be sure ...

Offline

 

#48 Wed, Sep18 2013 6:17pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5381
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Well, yes, I think you need to have a figure in your hands and then prime it. Not until then you can tell about the quality and existance of the details. I do hate those thumbnail-sized pics from Mithril and especially Phaeton-Design. That's why I never comment on any pic of a figure about being released, if you remember that. Alas, this had to be said again.

I'll get back soon ... have to control, how the primer reacts to metal and resin (Thor again).

Offline

 

#49 Wed, Sep18 2013 6:45pm

Theobald
Wisest of Ents
From: the Osning in Germany
Registered: Tue, Jan29 2008
Posts: 5381
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

To get back to your query, Master Milo. - Sorry, I cannot haste each and everything, as you know.
Er, fact is that Mithril has to agree to Irish laws about "Aviation Security Declaration" concerning shipping goods per airmail. That means that Master Lars Edman has to declare and certify that packages sent do not contain "any dangereous or prohibited goods". - So, sending spray cans via airmail are not prohibited, but they could be dangerous. - That's just laws, as far as I know and I'm sure about.  - grrruooohmmm ... I will not comment on this here .... just believe me this is , what is fact, as far as I know.
lyes, indeed, it does annoy me too ... give me some time to go on, please ...

Offline

 

#50 Wed, Sep18 2013 6:47pm

Gildor Inglorion
Wandering Elf
From: Montpellier, France
Registered: Fri, Jan25 2008
Posts: 3679
Website

Re: Painting tutorials, tips, tricks...

Well Milo you have to consider it is a PRINCE AUGUST product, not a mithril one

here is the link of the primer : http://shop.princeaugust.ie/paints-and- … imer-grey/


"Elves seldom give unguarded advice, for advice is a dangerous gift, even from the wise to the wise, and all courses may run ill." (Gildor Inglorion, LOTR1)

Offline

 

Board footer

Powered byPunBB
© Copyright 2002–2005 Rickard Andersson